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Could you explain how there is no good side in this as you say?
If Russia didn't invade there would still be realitive peace in Ukraine, or do you think by now Ukraine would have invaded Russia?
And they had to defend themselves, I'm just failing to see what "bad" Ukraine would have done to Russia?
Is Russia better off now?
I am conflicted about this particular war, as I support neither political side
Most people wouldn't be conflicted when a large country invaded a smaller, sovereign country but alas, you are
You are both reading stuff into my post that I didn't say, and certainly that I didn't mean.
I am conflicted about this particular war, as I support neither political side, neither Putin (who showed his true colours when he assaulted Chechnya) nor Zelensky with his NATO backers.
I think it is a tragedy that the war ever happened, and my heart goes out to the people who have fled their homes in terror, including - for instance - the Ukrainian woman I met who left Odessa after a rocket flashed past the window of her apartment - a woman who voiced extreme dislike for Zelensky, and utter confusion as to what Putin was up to. I also feel for those who have lost family and friends; and for those who have been injured.
I avoid most news on the war because of the difficulty in extracting real information from the propaganda, but I do follow progress on the ground via liveuamap.com and deepstatemap.live. They are both pro-Ukrainian, and if anything are likely to under-report Russian gains and over-estimate Ukraine's ability. Overall though, I believe they paint a fairly honest picture of where the front is and which direction it is moving in, although sometimes with a bit of a time lag.
I suspect my position won't meet your approval, but there is no good side in this war, although many good people have been very badly affected by it.
One final thing: do check out deepstatemap.live. You can wind the map back, and see what has happened since the war started, and it will show you where gains and losses have been made, and what has happened in recent months. Also, you can zoom in on any area and do the same there. Check out the Sudzha area. It looks difficult to defend to my eyes.
Like someone else mentioned New York even had similar refrigerated trucks lined up at mass graves.
It was not normal times.
As I've said I reckon it's COVID era because it appears organized compared to the carnage of their current meat wave tactics.
In bucha I don't believe the Russians made any effort to hide the execution of civilians.
now that’s interesting, clearly Russia are neither interested in negotiations nor helping their “allies”
Which yet again throws a spanner into the fake “why don’t Ukraine negotiate” narrative
But if that were the case with covid, you would normally have relatives claiming the bodies??
Russians love conspiracy theories (as can be seen in ramblings of @Sand regularly here) and there exists a special national grade of victimhood complex that is deeply ingrained in the culture due to centuries of those on top blaming “the other” to distract from their often epic homegrown fuckups
Be it Tzar blaming europe or communists blaming capitalism or now Putin blaming “the west”
Perhaps they should consider the theory that Putin is a CIA plant recruited in Germany with the sole purpose of destroying Russia and Russians from the inside, and them being too stupid to see the big picture and do anything about it
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Not the first time them Germans sent someone to destroy Russia from within → see Lenin
"..and Khrushchev said we will bury you"
What bizzare and grim ironies history gives us sometimes. Khrushchev had actually said that, it was even in the lyrics of a song…and here we are, with the goods of the West…buring them
Yeah we've seen people post computer game footage here before claiming it to be real war footage and some people fall for it due to wishful thinking. Would also like this video verified by a reliable source
This article from Forbes sums it up pretty well: Russia is still advancing, but slowly and with losses that surely are not sustainable indefinitely (which does not alter the fact that Ukraine also has issues now with manpower and morale):
The white biohazard suits would suggest a COVID era mass burial.
It actually looks too organized compared to the absolute shambles they've become after three years of a three day invasion.
Could be , I'd be intrigued if someone who's good at things could geo-locate and date the video , but I'll keep an open mind - COVID is a very valid explanation - but current war grave is quite likely as well ..
It might be for victims of Russian Nazi filtration concentration camps
With that in mind maybe the mass burial in the clip is from their covid era. It would make far more sense considering the retrieving bodies from the front is not really happening.
Your expectation is based on what you think a civilised people would do, not a criminal regime pushing men from a degenerated and now destroyed culture into a wood chipper over a few square meters of mud There are multiple videos posted by Russians of going to front walking past bodies after bodies of their comrades or driving past miles of tank after destroyed tank, or photos of whole fields cowered in Russian corpses
The bodies are being disposed of by local pigs and dogs on the cheap
For sure Russia has a lot of demographic problems.
This is not easily reversed, and immigrants aren't a sufficient answer. And again, a bad economy and risk of being sent to the meat grinder aren't very enticing to immigrants. It's all linked.
Even if the war was to stop tomorrow and all sanctions were lifted and assets unfrozen, it's still a grim situation for Russia. The frozen assets would surely need to be used for compensation and reconstruction in Ukraine anyways.
I would expect Ru to clear as many of the fallen Russian soldiers from the field so as not to show thoese going to the front what lies ahead of them
Reminds me of the images of the mass graves being dug in New York during covid. Over a million people dead across the country. The orange idiot suggested looney tunes remediations. Now he's back.
And the other micro sized looney in Moscow is now actively perpetuating mass murder and mass graves of his own people.
I thought the same for a while but then I wondered why would you need a refrigerated truck (Coolchain on the side) for peat stripping?
Maybe they're burying them temporarily in peat soil so that they can re-inter them later when the war is over. One would like to think.
Thousands of bodies just being tossed into pits with no regard whatsoever. Fairly clear that the orcs are suffering catastrophic losses in manpower.
I can see why a warped madman like putler would order such a thing though.
The Ukrainian armed forces seem to be keeping count of the number of putin's terrorists they kill or are confident are seriously injured from what actions they take, but how many of putin's terrorists are killed by their own troops when they don't follow orders to run into a suicidal attack on prepared positions or just freeze to death because disrupted supply lines don't bring what they need to stay alive on the front lines? Mass graves could just be the troops that did not make it through a cold night on the front and the estimates of casualties from the Ukrainian side could be an underestimate of the numbers of putin's terrorists he has sent to die for his delusions.
Really when you see images like that, Putin really is a psychopath.
The whole war is entirely unnecessary outside of Putin's head, yet we now have approaching a million Russians dead and injured. Not to mention Ukrainians, Koreans and others.
I read post elsewhere earlier today that said the frontline hospitals are overwhelmed with injured Russians and insufficient medical staff, and the behind-the-lines hospitals aren't in much better. The most senior officers get shuttled further and further back to get the best treatment, and the least senior get bandaged up and sent back to the front line to die another day. Apparently that saves on paperwork, because the local commander doesn't have to justify sending his quota of troops back to Russia; and it preserves stressed medical support systems for those who "really need it" - i.e. the guys with the brownest noses. Between those two extremes, there must be an awful lot of fellows who die from their injuries. Don't forget, too, that there are hundreds killed in barracks, training grounds, command centres and the like - they can't be left to rot within sight and smell of the local Russians.
In the clip it shows rows of white coloured body shaped bags. It's not a solid row because it's staggered in places. It shows trenches being dug then and the spoil heaped up. At the excavator at the trench it shows people in white coveralls in the trench. Commentator says they are dragging the bodies in. As the excavator is digging it looks like these white rows of body shaped bags are ending at the excavator so would concur that they are being dragged in as it's being dug. Commentator pans out to show more artic refridgerated lorries queing up down the road facing towards the site.
Are we sure it's not just peat stripping?
Perhaps the wounded that were able to make it back to their support side. I know, mostly they leave the wounded to die, or kill them out of hand, but some must make it back.
It seems weird to me. Where are they getting the bodies from? We're seeing visually confirmed soldiers that have fallen still on the (battle)field for the drones to view and it doesn't appear that Russia are risking life and limb to retrieve anyone. Are these the bodies of the wounded who later die due to poor medical care? Or are they the bodies of the vanquished/liberated?
Either way, it's pretty concerning. But as long as its invading Russians doing most of the dying, I won't worry about where they end up.
That's an interesting point and it'll be an interesting election to watch, thanks. Maybe this is also why Trump hasn't implemented tarrrifs against the EU yet too?
Afd has a lot more influence than it's had previously and the CFD might need to carefully heed the lessons of the US election (whatever those are!) . I've personally no idea how it'll play out or what effect the result will have so I won't speculate. But as the largest economy in the EU, whatever happens in Germany will have an influence on EU policy.
Extra irony here is that the diggers are designed and built in the decadent west
That gave me the shivers .. I'm struggling to get my head around the scale -
Look that video could be propaganda - but with the number of Russians dieing daily.. it wouldn't surprise me if it's 100% true
