Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

If you think about that 58% representing personal debt, effectively that means he's likely burned through a significant proportion of that. He's paying himself through borrowings to avoid tax. But what's significant about that is that the avoidance has to come to an end at some stage and the tax bill will be pretty darn big.

The only problem with that model is that it's not necessarily you who decides the shares have to be cashed in. In Musk's case I think it's unexercised options. I believe Morgan Stanley are the bulk lender, so if they see the share price sliding and decide the risk is unacceptable, they could pull the plug which could have massive ramifications for the share price since the holdings are so significant.

Id imagine the other 87.2% shareholders in Tesla will move against him if they believe his antics are putting people off the product.

Tesla sales down 63% year-on-year in French market in January.

Yet it drops everywhere else on the planet thst does have Highland...

Head in the sand stuff. They should be knocking it out of the park. Instead he's becoming increasingly a noose on the brands neck

Wouldn't be surprised if that was pure politics at play. If the EV credits landscape shifts, as has been suggested, it might all change though?

m3 (highland) sales in Australia down 62% year on year. It’s a huge market for them:

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/teslas-australian-sales-slump-continues-into-2025

Germany and the UK will be the other ones to watch

Edit: Jan deliveries for top 8 EU countries down by almost half 😳

https://electrek.co/2025/02/03/tesla-tsla-sales-are-dropping-like-a-rock-in-europe-but-its-not-just-because-of-elon-musk/

The other factor not addressed in that article is the increased competition from other brands. That has to have an affect on Tesla sales. Although that could also be part of the anti-Musk sentiment where there's now a viable choice.

having a viable alternative is THE most important part of the “is musk costing tesla sales” - the sales have to go somewhere, and if tesla is the market leader then there needs to be very viable options for buyers

apparently it’s even more complicated than that for many car manufacturers, with some car parts and materials crossing the border over and back multiple times before the final car is complete.

I remember Stellantis buying the Vauxhall plant near Liverpool with the intention of just producing less complex vans for the British market but they've issued profit warnings for the operation as parts weren't as easy to source within Britain as had been anticipated. Won't be surprised if they fold in the next few years.

For six years he has duped investors in his ponzi scheme promising the robo taxi

Bear in mind if a computer is driving and a passenger doesn't comply car is off the road ie getting sick over the interior

think Musk is now a negative for the stock too his credibility is shot.

But he has got the reigns on power and is abusing it to his advantage down loading personal data of US citizens under rep/Don's watch.

A coked up nazi from south Africa is running a mock inside America's democracy with the republicans blessing.

No I won't be invested any more or buy an electric car especially a teasla even though I have heard good reports.

God help America from what I have seen this week.