BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Residents still not happy with the 19 service. It really sounds like they want their own full time service that they wouldn't have to share with people from Ballymun or any Airport worker

https://x.com/GaryGannonTD/status/1881684929165271112?t=px5WzVU6ZDVjWdWfgKM7IA&s=19

Yeah, I really hope when this gets put into action, it'll be fine and just a memory.

Access for people with disabilities is always an issue, but the peak time Wadelai terminus services should help

Do think it's incorrect for him to say the NTA were dismissive of residents concerns. They improved quite a lot from what they originally planned!

Speaking of the 11, can anyone see a good reason why it can’t be immediately changed over to being the new 86 (or a modified version of it) that it is eventually going to become?

I can’t see any reason why the changes to that route is being pushed off to the “final phase” (which will be years away from now) or indeed for any of the other routes in that final phase since they don’t involve a new “spine” or anything comparable and nor do they interact with any of the spines that are due for rollout (once the E spine is introduced in a few days).

It would make you wonder why the people of wadeli weren't told to walk to the E spine as the people on the 79 route were told to walk to the G spine. Ballyfermot people were fobbed off with the hourly 60 and told to be glad of it. 60 has become very busy and still doesn't serve the main stop at tescos. It serves one stop on kylemore road with the L55. Apparently that stop needs 2 buses per hour in both directions. Both services get caught in school traffic twice a day. Different parts of the city treated Differently.

the last service on the 11b in either direction is before 4pm in both directions , not particularly off-peak in the evenings

By my count, there are approx 120 46a departures from the Phoenix Park/Dun Laoghaire daily. Adding up the to-be-launched. 11+11b = 59 buses doing the same, with a large amount of those skewed towards the A.M

Now, I know the E's will take SOME of the load if you happen to live in Phibsboro but thats a shocking drop

I will report back on signage later.

I've said much the same a few times here already. The 19 will not be full because it's going to/from the airport. I would bet a significant amount on that.

1. The 16 and 41 are rarely full. I get these buses regularly and they are busy but rarely completely full. For the 41, more people get on in Swords and Santry than the airport typically.
2. The 16 takes an indirect and slow route to the city centre. The 19 according to the timetable is about 10 minutes slower than the 16 to Parnell Square.
3. The 19 will use a different stop to the 16 and 41 at the airport. You'd have to go out of your way to get the 19. The vast majority of people going to Drumcondra or the city centre will continue to go to the 16/41 stop.
4. The main users of the 19 to the airport will be airport workers in Glasnevin and Ballymun and there isn't enough to fill buses on a 20 minute frequency service.

There will probably be a few tourists who get the 19 instead of the 16 at stops they share in the city centre and Drumcondra since the 19 also says "airport" on the front. However I can't imagine this will be any significant number.

oh i agree, i think its gonna be a great route and ill be using it .

but im just making the point that its ironic that if the Airport wasnt in play , you could switch the two and both sides would be happier.

That's completely untrue about the 41 and 16 and I am a user of the Swords Road buses to the airport very regularly.

Buses regularly are completely full after Northwood or before all morning long. The same in the evening going outbound. The 41 is rammed all through the night at the weekend leaving people behind the whole way out or dangerously over crowded.

I've been on buses on Saturday's completely full. Even out of the airport from 23:00 most nights the 16s and 41s load up and leave completely full. It is a very busy route. I have had countless times either not been able to get on or run past stops because the bus was full.

I do agree that the 19 won't be full because of the airport, but it will be very busy because of its overall route.

When going to the airport and you see a bus going to the airport physically loading up there or a 16 or 41 (say at Drumcondra Station) in 5 / 8 minutes which may be full or may be a ghost bus, I know what I would be doing.

like this says it all

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2025/0121/1491944-bus-connects-roll-out/

Standing at the 11 route's terminus to make his way to work in Clonskeagh, Sean Heffernan, from Glasnevin Downs, said he is not sure about details of the changes to the bus routes, but they may force him back to his car.

"This bus drops you directly to doorstep, so I don't know how to get to work in future once this bus is gone," he said.

Mr Heffernan said he will have "to find another way to get to get to work", adding this may involve his car "which is not what I want to do at all".

exactly .

I'd say to make use of half of the SG's in Donnybrook's fleet that are unused. Haha.