Rory Gallagher - A dismissed case that was dealt with and brought to attention? Mod Note in OP

No, its that the considerations when putting someone in a position of responsibility for others are different than when they dont. It not about punishment its about the specific role.

so to summarise: found guilty by a court- sure just show remorse and we’ll let you carry on as before and call it “rehabilitation“. Have an accusation around you- ban them. Should Hayes have been banned while he was awaiting trial.

Here’s the lad that the two Kerry lads battered:

https://extra.ie/2021/12/18/news/irish-news/kerry-footballers-appeal

have a good look at the damage they did and the impact it had on them, since you mentioned research earlier. Only remorse was when they realised a conviction might affect their future. Ones a regular inter county player still

here’s the report on the assault by the Hayes brothers

https://www.limerickpost.ie/2024/12/20/darkness-still-lingers-in-my-parish-victim-of-hurley-and-wrench-attack-said-brothers-beat-me-like-they-wanted-me-dead/

again have a good read of what these two scumbags did. If an animal did it you’d have it put down.

again Remorse once they realised they were fcuked. The two scumbags tried to tell Garda their victim was probably beaten over a drugs deal. One is still team captain

I could give you similar for the other cases I listed earlier. In every case the victims have been physically and mentally ruined. And the perpetrators are facilitated by the GAA and wider society, largely because it’s acceptable to give a lad a few slaps, sure he’s a lad, well able for it. Not a lad you facing in the heat of a match mind (that wouldn’t be alright and sure he might be able for you), nah, just battering some innocent randomer: it won’t get too much news coverage in relative terms cause the victims profile doesn’t suit, and sure if you’re convicted the local judge will usually set that aside on appeal anyway.

so frankly anyone who says Burns isn’t a hypocrite is talking shite. And if they think their own refusal to admit their double standards here doesn’t also make them a hypocrite they’re also talking shite. It might make them feel better, as though they somehow have a special rationalisation that makes it all ok, but it’s still shite to cover their own double standards, and it’s a huge insult to victims across the country

How many on here would want Gallagher managing their club?

I wouldn't want him anywhere near mine

Nonsense, I would treat them all the same.

Suitable for participation as an individual playing on a team as an amateur.

None of them, including Gallagher, would be suitable in a position of responsibility or authority or handing out medals etc.

I think there are two groups.

Firstly, there are some who have a voodoo doll of some other GAA figure that they want to push sticks into and punish for another reason, they see Burns as a hypocrite for not stopping those others from playing. While I don't agree with them, at least I understand where they are coming from.

Secondly, it appears there are actually some posters who would be delighted with Gallagher managing their club. That is astonishing and I don't get that at all.

Rory Gallagher is near 50; his playing days are over in any meaningful way.

Edit: He was to be part of the coaching team so the level of his responsibility/authority would have been curtailed as it was; yet he would have been inevitably interacting with all ages/sexes etc. within the club.

Hayes is still in his prime and will be ok to play on the biggest stages of his sport for a number of years.

As a player on that stage, he is already in a position of responsibility inevitably; how do you stop his interaction with children as a big name player etc. when they rush on to a pitch after a game or at training etc.

There is no equality here as the two scenarios are unequal.

I know plenty of 50-years old playing GAA socially, playing for third or fourth teams, or playing Masters. Those routes should remain open to Gallagher.

Masters/third/fourth teams are completely irrelevant; they barely feature in local news. Hayes is at a different stage/level.

(Edit: I say 'irrelevant' as a current Junior B & C stalwart)

Playing in an All Ireland series and potentially winning more all Ireland medals is significantly greater in the scheme of things; yet he's good to go while coaching is to be restricted. The comparative punishments are wholly unequal.

one is captain of his club team

Just on this one; it's amazing how many GAA team "captains" end up before the courts on drink driving/speeding/assault/disorderly etc. charges…..it's almost as if the solicitors make it up. Yet the GAA remain silent on it continuously.

You cannot selectively deal with one whilst ignoring all the others. Burns has opened a can of worms.

Maybe you could advise me of situations where Jarlath Burns has failed to intervene when other players in a similar situation have been in a position to take on a management role?

Calling RG a scumbag is probably unfair on your common decent scumbag all right.

Conor McGregor has the same innocent status as Gallagher, neither convicted in a criminal court.

Somebody being mindful of what they say to the face of someone with a reputation for violence for fear of violet reprisal does not invalidate their opinion of that person.

McGregor has the same status as me when it comes to criminality. And I presume that he has the same status as yourself when it comes to criminality i.e. does not have a criminal record; assuming you do not have a criminal record. Your comment means nothing.

Conor McGregor's case was not private. The Judge had to warn the public gallery that he would jail them if things got too rowdy. The District Court and Circuit Court hear issues relating to Family law, and are mostly in private. You clearly are not in the legal business. So stop throwing out untruths on it.

” the punishment on Hayes is greater…”
Christ your argument just looks ridiculous now.

Poor Kyle will I’m sure be gutted as he continues his quest to add to his collection of all Ireland medals, in front of a TV audience of millions.

No doubt the awareness that after his successful hurling career is over the president of the GAA might intervene to stop him managing a local team is making him strongly reconsider the wisdom of dragging his victim through courts and the lack of any remorse he’s shown. Yep, let’s hit him where it matters, sure who remembers talented hurlers eh local management is where it’s at, that’s the game that gets you places.

Still I’m sure he’ll understand that it’s important to continue his “rehabilitation”, doing exactly the same things he was doing before his court appearance- if we expect “rehabilitation” to help someone to go down a different path than they did previously, is it sensible that it looks exactly like what they were doing before? Really?

What a complete cop out

basically that's the outer half of the story , the inner part is a little more stark , ms gallagher lost custody of the kids due to a chronic dependency on alcohol , the hero looking after the kids was never on trial for domestic abuse but suddenly went into hiding for 18 months after the allegations became public ,

burns is probably trying to either boost his public image or hide what is going on in his own county but this case is not as outrageous as it looks

No chance he's taking a case

They get well paid but it's hidden so that side of things is complex. He won't take a case, why would he want to highlight dodgy under the table payments that are rife in the GAA.