WWE Raw (on Netflix) Superthread

The 2nd best luchador comment was so stupid. Immediately making him feel less than the "real star", who is not the world's best at his age.

That said, Penta isn't even the best in his family. Penta will suit WWE better than his brother though, as he is much more of a vibes guy than Fenix

Mr Hankey. Thats the funniest thing I've read in years.

Didn't realise Penta could speak English. Dunno if he's fluent but he was doing okay.

So is SNME just WWE's version of Battle of the Belts?

I know it's a midcard title, but when we're getting a guaranteed new champion, I think the title match should main event.

What are the odds that a lot of these guys declaring for the Rumble will be in the later numbers. Every year it seems we could be wating for more surprises only for the last 6 or 7 to be guys like Cena, Roman or Orton.

For anyone that watched live, what are Netflix showing when it goes black since there aren't meant to be commercials? Like this week's episode is showing as being only about 2.5 hours long.

Delighted for Lyra getting the title. Irish talent is such a boost for WWE and hope they continue to cast their eyes on the amazing talent in this country.

Penta's debut started off a bit slow but man he really delivered. Gable was the perfect opponent for him. Sold like a mother, that destroyer spike sell was gorgeous. The promo was great, also didn't realise his level of English, however the crowd coming alive when he spoke Spanish was amazing, even if it won't work as well outside of San Jose. Agree that AEW stars will definitely be looking seeing the presentation of this guy.

I honestly think that generally people who have come from AEW to WWE have been treated and booked well for the most part. In fact there's probably more WWE guys that went to AEW and didn't come off looking great than there is the opposite.

The Rumble is stacked. Being a Balor fan is pain.

Really don't know what is next (and hope away from each other) for Priest and Balor

A move to SD might be better for one of them

I had a strange one with Netflix. Times are to the best of my recollection…

I went to look at Raw on Tuesday evening after work. I think it was down as 2hr 31 mins - so I assumed the ads were missing. I watched about 1hr 30 mins. One of the last things was Sami and Miz setting up a match for later that night.

On Wednesday, I went to watch the last hour, starting with the street fight. Netflix said that I had 25 mins or so left, making it a 2 hour program. The street fight was the last thing with credits at the end and there was no Sami v Miz match.

Anybody else see this?

Just checked and yep. Showing as 2 hours. Last week's is showing as 2 hrs 25 even though I remember it was 3 hrs.

Looking online now, it seems they have edited the show, including censoring the swearing and the F I Solo chants from the crowd. Which seems to go against what being on netflix was supposed to be.

Yeah seems the edits happen in the transition from the live stream version to the on demand version.

Apart from one subscription to the WWE Network, I've only had access to the 1 hour highlights shows, so I'm really enjoying the full shows. I thought the crowd was flat on the first night - full of VIPs and celebs - but was much better on the subsequent Smackdown and Raw.

Ah the crowds can still be vocal, but they 100 percent still use the piped in crowd sounds. The edits are not hard to spot.

We could be talking about two different things.

WWE have in the past 'piped in sounds' and had 'crowd sweetening'.

The piped in sounds are literally effects of cheers or booes as appropriate. I don't believe they've done that in a while but open to correction, not sure I'd notice half the time. It used to be really obvious when Smackdown was taped/

The crowd sweetening is a base layer of crowd atmosphere so there's never really silence. It's not that loud or noticeable half the time. I'd heard on Wrestling Observer Radio and read on a few wrestling sites that at least from the Netflix debut, they haven't been using crowd sweetening.

I do think if WWE were tinkering with audio THAT much, they'd probably have not had some of the crowd reactions recently. Like Hogan booed to that extent or some of the pretty quiet reaction to certain superstars over the last while.