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Worst to first, zero to hero

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,484 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    My prediction is no worst to first.

    Hero to Zero though, the Bucs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Scoobydooo


    Falcons for me - solid O-Line and Bijan/Allgeier will run the hell out of it. Ridder should improve + some decent defensive additions should improve that side of the ball too. Weak division with Saints being their biggest challenger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Hail Houston.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Quick look at 2024 Worst To First candidates, in reverse order of possibility. Obviously the draft and coaching changes could make everything different.

    1. Carolina Panthers - 2-15 in NFC South. A weak division so in theory it wouldn't take a massive turnaround. Bryce Young has looked poor though, and no first rounder in the draft.
    2. Washington Commandeers - 4-13 NFC East. A division which always has a different winner gives hope, but seems a bit of a mess there at the moment. New head coach on way.
    3. New England Patriots - 4-13 AFC East. New head coach, questions over QB situation and a tough division. Would expect improvement but it's a 2/3 year project.
    4. LA Chargers - 5-12 AFC West. Another with a new head coach on way. Herbert should be better than this year, but hard to see them getting ahead of Kansas.
    5. Arizona Cardinals - 4-13 NFC West. Kyler Murray looked good on his mid-season return and they were competitive in a lot of games (5 one score defeats). Have an extra pick (Texans) in first round. 49ers hover over their winning chance though.
    6. Tennessee Titans - 6-11 AFC South. Yet another with a new head coach. But it's traditionally a tight and weak division (Texans may change that) so wouldn't be a massive shock.
    7. Chicago Bears - 7-10 NFC North. Were in the play-off mix until late in season, and don't seem too far behind Lions and Packers. Have lots of ammo in draft.
    8. Cincinnati Bengals - 9-8 AFC North. With a winning record they clearly are the standout, their season stymied by the Joe Burrow injury. With him back they can go close. Possible cap issues upcoming, their window may be closing after 2024.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,484 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Good summary Armani. I think the last two have the best chance.

    The Chargers have serious ammo on offense but I think the Chiefs will sort out the wide receiver and left tackle issues over the off-season.

    I don't rate Murray so can't see the Cards doing it with the niners, the Rams on an upward curve and you'd never know what you'll get from the Seahawks with a new head coach.

    The Texans are on an upward curve and I think the Titans need a QB and Henry will be gone.

    My own Patriots need two offensive tackles, an elite wide receiver, I hope we take Marvin Harrison jr. in the draft and may have QB issues but if they sort the tackles and take Harrison I think they could be dangerous. I'd give Jones another shot if they sort out what I mention above. This draft class is so deep at QB that somebody like Joe Milton in the later rounds might be worth picking up. He could be really good.



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,354 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    So nobody has managed to turn it around to first place this year. Commanders and Chargers both went from 4th to second. Potentially some interesting candidates for next year pending the results of week 18.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Avon8


    The Vikings went 7-10 so tied really for bottom with the Bears. They should probably be an honorary member in anycase, widely tipped to be worst in NFC North this year, longest odds for the division and win line painted at 6.5. Now at 14 wins and counting.

    There's some good tweets floating back up from accounts predicting they'd have 2 wins or would start 1-7 etc



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,354 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Next Year candidates:

    New England Patriots - 4-13

    Cleveland Browns 3-14

    Tennessee Titans - 3-14

    Las Vegas Raiders - 4-13

    New York Giants - 3-14

    Chicago Bears - 5-12

    New Orleans Saints - 5-12

    San Francisco 49ers - 6-11



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,484 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Bears need an offensive line and maybe a running back, pretty stacked roster besides those areas. 49ers might need to improve the offensive line and they gotta stay healthy. Saints need a good head coach and their offensive and defensive lines were weak, need to stay healthy.

    Quarterback is critical for the Giants, Raiders and Titans. Patriots need a left guard, left tackle, right tackle and a much improved wide receiver group. They might also need a defensive tackle if Barmore's health doesn't improve.



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