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Glastonbury 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Nah, it's just that there is the usual 1975 troll bemoaning the fact that Glasto is all "Woke" lately..…lately. Lol. (whatever that means. IMHO, woke is the past tense of wake). Just a poor attempt at humour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    G24 1.JPEG

    My phone keeps digging up old photos, not sure what year this is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭Wooderson




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    So, what are the relatively reliable rumours?

    Rod confirmed with a high possibility of the surviving Faces (Jones & Wood) joining him. Chic also.

    Olivia Rodrigo certain, heavy rumours of Neil Young and The 1975 (I'd take one good headliner, two highly unlikely).

    Goat, CMAT, Libertines, Father John Misty probably there. Alanis Morisette, Gang of Four, Bunnymen, Sting, The Last Dinner Party all in the locality. After that it's guesswork but so far looking like it could shape up to be an improvement on the last couple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    No idea but I hope they book Squarepusher again, he was great in the glade in 2019 I think it was?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Neil Young has pulled out of the festival, calling it at "corporate turn-off". He implies that the BBC wanted him to do things that he didn't want to do.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    All about tv rights/performance usage and setlist. BBC is heavy handed about MainStage tv rights and knowing setlist in advance.



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    It's a cop-out by him as there's no difference whatsoever from 2009. It's also not heavy-handed to ask for the setlist so they can inform the viewers of what's being played. He also has the option of refusing to be filmed as Leonard Cohen did in 2008, The Libertines in 2022 and several others. 'Tis just contrary horsesh1t from Shakey, nothing new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Nah bbc have being very demanding in recent years requiring artists to allow either substantial or nearly all the Glastonbury headline set being broadcasted.
    the libertines were on at lunchtime on the Friday on the other stage, a different situation than Neil young headlining the pyramid stage one of the nights.

    If broadcast rights is the respective red lines for Neil young and Glasto/BBC then I can understand why it’s happened. Both have valid reasons for current status quo



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    Source please on any change from 2009. Accredited media only.

    That 11.00/11.30 slot on the Friday on the Other Stage opens the festival. There are no acts on competing main stages when it starts so there are usually 70k people there as there were for the Libertines who didn't want to be filmed so weren't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭crl84


    The first few acts on the Other Stage are never filmed/broadcast.

    The Libertines haven't negotiated anything, the BBC just don't start filming on that stage until lunchtime, and so the first and second and sometimes third act on the schedule don't get broadcast. Eg. In 2023 Ben Howard and The Hives didn't have their sets broadcast.

    I would agree that it's Neil Young being a contrary bollocks though.

    Acts can decide not to have their sets broadcast, MIA and Massive Attack have done so in recent years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,363 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Exactly .As have David Bowie and many others.

    He could've negotiated but not in his DNA .

    Neil just likes to kick up his heels and be cross every so often .



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    Which is really sad as he's turning 80 next year and this could have been a phenomenal set. Stevie Wonder and Eminem both feature in rumours and would be great but I'd personally prefer Shakey and he's just having a hissy-fit. The top line of artists is likely to look a lot shabbier now as Olivia Rodrigo will be one of the headliners and possibly Sam Fender/The 1975. Neil could have added a lot more dignity to that incoming poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,363 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Sam Fender 👀eh headlining ?

    Yeah love the man but he's a cranky oul git .I suppose like a lot of us when getting on a bit and he just happens to be having his histrionics in public ;)



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    Fender - hopefully not, but…….

    And Neil calling Glasto ‘corporate’ is embarrassing himself by displaying gross ignorance of the festival.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    That's a shame. His '09 set was marvliss. Not sure how much of it was broadcast... 4 or 5 tunes?

    Interesting take from Neil that it's become a lot more corporatised since then. Wouldn't surprise me to hear that they are beholden to BBC contracts more these days. Pity. He would have been a devisive, shambolic triumph.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    glasto has become more corporate in last 20 years, far more onsite sponsorship and proliferation of boutique/expensive accommodation to corporate entertainment packages.
    BBC involvement is a more corporate aspect. It’s the centrepiece of bbc music coverage in the summer and they have demanded more and more exhaustive terms from artists, friends have been subject to these terms. A lot feel pressured into agreeing to them.
    BBC coverage is a catch 22 situation, it’s a massive selling point for bands to play for next to nothing as bbc coverage can have dramatic effect to an artists profile in the uk on the other hand a legend like Neil young or others as mentioned like m.I.a etc May have own thoughts on bbc demanding broadcasting rights for their sets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,776 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Very interesting. Neil being Neil.

    Glasto/BBC were always going to get told to **** off asking/telling Neil that the entire set has to be broadcast, asking for setlists etc.

    Delighted hes still fighting the good fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Why would an act NOT want their set to be broadcast?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    • cause maybe they want to film their own headline show on that tour to release as a live album/streaming release.
    • cause they don’t want to hand over control to the bbc for how their live show is recorded/broadcasted/sound mixed?
    • Cause they aren’t a fan of tv broadcasts of their sets, they want people to experience it firsthand at their concerts
      An artist like Neil young has earned right to decide how his music is released/broadcast. If he only wanted them to broadcast a handful of songs and bbc wanted full headline set then what can either do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭joinme


    It's a pity for those with tickets to miss out on the opportunity to see Neil Young on the Pyramid stage. His headline show in 2009 remains one of the best concerts I've ever witnessed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,776 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    He only agreed at the last minute to allow 20 minutes of his 2009 set to be broadcast.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭crl84


    Not exactly crazy demands:

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    It's a big hissy-fit though and there'll be another reason. Possibly offered a bigger fee elsewhere that weekend? The BBC would never have said that the entire set had to be broadcast. The start of Macca's wasn't in 2022, half of the Stones missing in 2013 and Massive Attack (2014) plus Leonard Cohen in 2008 refused to be filmed at all.

    This is a not-for-profit festival with no corporate sponsorship. The monies go to Oxfam, Greenpeace, Water Aid and local charities. Glastonbury turned down enormous ooffers from Sky and Channel 4 for broadcast rights so it could be aired for free with no advertising. Neil ain't fighting the good fight. He's being an idiot.



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    Absolutely, and they're not selling on that material via DVD sales or pay-per-view streaming services. No profiteering. Neil probably got a bigger offer from another European festival or he's doing Hyde Park or more lucrative standalone shows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭crl84


    There's absolutely corporate sponsorship.
    The Guardian, Carslberg/Tuborg at main bars, Brothers cider all over the place, Vodafone off the top of my head…

    https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/news/download-our-2024-app-keep-your-phone-charged/

    They might not have naming rights on the festival/stages, but it's still there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,776 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Disagree.

    The Beeb asking/telling Neil Young that they'll show his set wherever they like and chop up whatever bits of it they want for little pro BBC highlight packages and ultimately, advertising?

    Thats never going to work. Amazed he allowed it last time.

    Even if they agreed not to do any of that, asking him is enough reason for a PFO.



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    The Guardian and BBC are media partners. They don't sponsor the festival nor advertise there, only broadcast and provide coverage.

    Vodafone are there but don't have advertising rights. They're present to ensure that 220k people have phone coverage and you can recharge for free.

    Brooklyn Pilsner (Carlsberg has European brand rights) are the main beer but there's no advertising. Festivals sell branded drinks shocker. It can't have escaped your attention that the bars have a simple sign ouut side simply saying BAR.

    Once again can you name a corporate sponsor?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Vodafone, Land Rover and Hunter are three of the brands I remember from last year off the top of my head. All are official partners of Glastonbury.



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