BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

It always seems to be GAI issues whenever these bus connects changes roll out. DB seem to have sorted out a lot of the issues with driver shortages have GAI?

Do you not think from reading the article from the Indo there is a mismatch in communication going on between the operators & the NTA in how they are progressing on getting the E Spine routes out in January or possibly March. One side discussing this phase of the project online (Dublin Bus drivers & management) are saying that everything is ready to go when OTOH Go Ahead's drivers are saying "No. wait a minute there lads; something is up with our side of things with how these new routes are going out to their passengers?

The frequency issues with this spine on the N11 is still going to be reduced if it goes out unchanged in late January or March. I don't want to give favourable arguments in favour of Dublin Bus here. They do appear to be committed to roll out these new routes anyway regardless of the expected reduction in frequency along that corridor. We can say with certainty that all of the issues about the N11 frequency and the changing the 11 to the 19 route is all on Dublin Bus's plate to sort out with the NTA at this time.

I cannot really understand what is keeping Go Ahead from rolling out these new routes to their passengers who live in North Wicklow and in Blackrock, Kilternan, Ballyogan & Dun Laoghaire. Are they having more issues with the planned population increases due to all to of the planned house building projects going on in North Wicklow from now and in the future?

What are the housing developments for North Wicklow?

I don't see the point in rolling out the E spine as it currently stands, there are too many issues with it. It should be delayed until they can be properly addressed. It should take much effort to extend the 19 a little further south. They could wait until the O is ready to resolve the 46a issue and then add an "E3" to boost frequency on the N11 even if it ends at parnell sq

The E2 does NOT replace the 46a in toto -

Northbound it does nothing whatsoever for people going to the Phoenix Park/Zoo/Mater, Mountjoy prison and west of Phibsboro and in fact forces them into a change either to :

a bus with a lesser frequency than the 46a - the 11

OR - to Hanlons corner end - the busiest route in Dublin, the 39a

Southbound forces people onto the 39a west of Phibsboro for the Donnybrook corridor to that side of UCD - and that 39a is rammed every service

That petition has been doing the rounds enthusiastically where I live.

I bet it wont launch (the E) until a government is formed and its all quietened down

Interesting news about Dublin bus planned celebration of the 46A being pushed back from January to March.

could well mean the E spine being pushed back to March

I wonder might they go ahead and launch the F spine first ? Wasn't that originally planned ahead of the E spine ?

That's the extra drivers needed to send it Southside ?

Surely extending it the bare minimum to college green or Shaw street with a connection to the 11 wouldnt require much extra resources ?

Yeah that's what I thought but I suppose even an extension to and from Merrion Square on every lap could impact roster requirements.

yeah I was thinking Merrion Square might be a bit much. but if you could get a connection to the 11 on o'connell street, and d'olier street it would be across the road from the green line Luas and beside the 46A/E1/E2.

The main complaints I've seen from the Save the 19 crowd is that the replacement should at least go as far as Stephens Green.

They could get a connection on Parnell St but they don't want to so it would have to be at least O'Connell Bridge or further.

One thing about this is how we do consultations. Very clear that it doesn't matter how many you do, it's only when you get to start implementing things you'll find out if there's support or at least not big pushback

A vast money pit into which taxpayers’ money will be funnelled for years before the project is eventually recognised as being too expensive and cancelled when three quarters completed.

Or of course they could just proceed with the 19 as is and deal with it. If not they open themselves up to every change getting pushed back and that will be on them.

Somebody in the decision-making positions clearly doesn't have the spine to get things done.

…I'll see myself out.