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Is my friend an alcoholic or just drinking too much

  • 27-12-2024 11:33PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42


    I was out with a friend over Christmas. We're in our late 30's, we both had pretty heavy sessions together in college, so I am no saint.

    Anyway she drinks 2 and a half bottles of wine on one night out over Christmas. She honestly did not seem too drunk. However the following day I was messaging her and she had no recollection of the night before. We were both laughing etc. But I was thinking it was all strange.

    I called to her house another afternoon and she offered me a drink, I said no but herself and her partner were drinking a lot all afternoon.

    She has a great job, a lovely partner and goes to the gym 4/5 days a week. She looks really well. She doesn't seem to fight with people. The only thing is she drinks and drives the following morning.

    I have plenty similar examples of heavy drinking.

    The question is should I say something to her or maybe a family member? Or is there even a problem?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    It's Christmas..probably over indulgence at this time of the year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭harr


    maybe just Christmas , but I have friends in similar circumstances .. I probably wouldn’t call them alcoholic but definitely drink way to much .. she would polish off 2 -3 bottles of wine a night maybe 4 nights of week and he definitely drinks 6 cans most nights and would finish 10 a couple of nights.. i honestly don’t know how they function..

    It’s definitely a hard subject to bring up , you probably would be surprised at how much some couples drink and how normal they think that is ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    I'd say something. I wish I could go back in time as I have a friend on dislaysis from drinking. I also know a girl died from it quite recently only in her 30ths. 2 and a half bottles of wine is serious drinking .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Never pat a burning dog, nobody is going to thank you for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    they are both alcoholic. Functioning ones.

    @OP mind your own business. In isolation what you saw is cutting loose at Xmas a little. She goes to the gym 5 days a week and looks well always: I would be doubtful of a drink problem. And either way. Keep your nose out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Etc


    Alcoholic is a subjective term and shouldn’t be applied lightly. Everybody’s situation is different, so I wouldn’t be applying a label to people without all of the facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    He's talking nonsense

    An expert on people's lives after reading couple of lines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    As you say it’s subjective. And I guess by my definition a man drinking 6-10 cans every night and a woman drinking 2-3 bottles of wine 4 nights a week are drinking to excess and I would think there is a drink problem.

    yes that level of consumption is normal lol.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Mod - As per the charter,

    Personal Issues is an advice forum.
    Posters are required to offer advice or opinion to the OP in their replies.
    Replies are expected to be mature, civil and well phrased.

    In short, offer advice to the OP, or do not post.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭NiceFella


    Its Christmas so people tend to over indulge. I wouldn't be overly judgemental at this time of year. But yes, 2 and a half bottles of wine is a lot.

    There can be a difference between an alcoholic and a binge drinker. You can be both of course, but many people who don't see themselves as problem drinkers are also binge drinking. Being overly drunk has knock on effects and has consequences.

    My advice, unless you are asked for help or their behavior effects you directly, it's all on them. If you'd prefer to hang around people who are more for sobriety or modest drinking then do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    I wouldn't say anything yet. Wait and see if she carries on drinking like that after the Christmas season has ended. Like some posters have said already, I doubt she will, she is most likely letting off steam. You don't see too many nearly 40 year old heavy drinkers in the gym 5 days a week as a general rule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    The fact that she downed two-and-a-half bottles and didn't appear drunk is a marker. Most functional alcoholics I've known had built-up an incredible tolerance to alcohol that whereas most people would get more drunk gradually over time, the functioning alcoholics appear fine until bottle number three, then suddenly boom, total head-down passing-out.

    Personally, I wouldn't say anything to her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    A lot of alcoholics are big into exercise simultaneously

    You'd surprised to hear that probably



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    I mean some are , but how many really do you think? Like a pure guess I’d say 1 in 20 would be going to the gym 5 times a week at over 40 and suffering from alcoholism. Dedication and commitment tend to be lacking in a lot of alcoholics let’s be fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    I'm saying it's common for alcoholics to be addicted to exercise too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    You're way off about dedication and commitment too

    Its quite common for the most dedicated and committed of sport persons to be simultaneously alcoholic the whole time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Would the functioning alcoholic think all the exercise somehow balances out the heavy drinking?.She is drinking a lot by the sounds of things Christmas or not ,and having a high tolerance might be a badge of honour when you are young it's proberly a big negative when you are older .If she is a good friend you could broach the subject in an non judgemental way .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    I’d disagree that there’s too many dedicated sports people being alcoholics, maybe dart players. Dedication and commitment isn’t a trait of alcholics typically sure there’s exceptions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    I’m just saying I think your wrong, I don’t think it’s particularly common



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    I know what you're saying but I know a lot about alcoholism and alcoholics

    Its very common for alcoholics to be simultaneously addicted to exercise

    You're way off about dedication and commitment too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    will have to agree to disagree on it , I’ve never studied alcoholism just an opinion I have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 cathodrays


    problematic drinker =/= alcoholic.

    Alcoholism is defined by how it affects your life not by how much you drink (i.e losing jobs, becoming violent, damage to your health). She just sounds like she consumes a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,466 ✭✭✭✭fits


    that level of consumption is really really bad for anyone - alcoholic or not.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,359 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    You should read some stories about how footballers used to live their lives back in the day, drinking and top level sport went hand in hand for a huge number of them.

    Multi-day benders every week, train every day and play PL matches against world class international players at the weekend.

    And I'm not talking George Best in the 70's here, it was rife up until the late 90's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭NiceFella


    I think you are very wrong about that one. Many many functioning alcoholics are super dedicated and even obsessive people. They use alcohol to switch off to balance themselves out. They're just not counted as alcoholics because they don't think they have a problem.

    As for traits of alcoholics, walk in to any AA meeting and you could be chatting to a single mother with no job to a highly successful business owner. I've been to those meetings and you'd be amazed at how many super successful people are in them. Alcoholism can effect literally anyone.

    You can argue about numbers but it certainly isn't just people who don't function as normal in society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭NiceFella


    This is pure nonsense and is what every alcoholic claims when everyone else tells them they have a problem. If you are drinking excessively, you don't have to wait until they crash and burn to admit they've a problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    OP talking from experience the only person who can answer that question is your friend and I'd advise if you value the friendship say nothing to her, her family or her friends. It could cost you the friendship in the long term. For me in my mind I was just having fun and maybe going over the top now and then. Anyone that questioned my drinking was insulting me to the highest level. Leave it go mate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,585 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    No sugar coating it - she’s an extremely high volume drinker - 2.5 bottles of wine in one night is serious drinking - it takes a lot of drinking to get to that level of alcohol tolerance - arguably she’s not tolerant in the sense she’s no memory of the previous nights events- as for driving the following day, well it’s her life, career, money, conscience - if she wants to wash it all away in a moment of madness that’s for her to potentially face - if you want to help that aspect maybe tell her stories around people you know caught drunk driving the following day - it might make her realise what she’s doing is just dicing with her future and potentially that of some innocent person she may well kill - but she’s also an adult - she DOES know better but she’s appears to be worshiping the altar of me-Fein - so be it - you can’t and won’t change that - very likely some hard lessons will be learned soon though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Redjacketboy


    Now that you see the light do you have the people in your life who questioned you back in your life?

    On balance I think I won't say anything to her. As you all say its her life.



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