Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Need to sign a lwb and a central midfielder in January imo.

Arsenal managed to rebuild going down the youth root, manager forcing out the overpaid unmotivated players, took them a few years to stabilize and then pushed on signing complete players.

Casmaerio also seems to be out of the managers favour about now too you'd think hed be the one coming on for ugarte but seems to be getting used a bit less and less

Yeah I get all that, but put the starting 11 on paper and not just todays but over the past few years and the ability/talent available vs the results is very poor. Once they cross the chalk line and the whistle blows its on the players and time and time again theyve let themselves, fans and club down with their performances

I am still struggling to see just how United are playing better stuff.

Even apart from the mistakes, every game is marked by multiple crap performances from different players.

I know the players are crap but the manager is there to improve performances, he is supposed to be a hotshot young coach so at some point soon we are going to have to start seeing some improvements.

Picking a settled side would be a good start.

I don't buy this free season stuff for one minute. He should be given time to hopefully show progress and incremental improvement of course. But when you're leaking goals at the alarming rate we are, it has to be addressed urgently.

In 4 months Tuchel turned Chelsea from mid table mediocrity into Champions of Europe and Top 4. Top managers are in the hot seat and paid huge salaries to produce results and while I'm really not expecting Top 4, it should be a lot better than this.

Another miserable Xmas for United fans!

Uhm. I think 4 years prior they won the league? And a lot can happen in 4 years. They were a mess when Tuchel arrived.

Again, I’m not demanding a similar turnaround from RA. But let’s give the “free hit” theory a rest. There’s no way we can afford to spend 6 or 7 months tinkering and implementing a system.
We’ll soon be looking over our shoulder at the bottom 3 with this kind of defending

Ok yes they are culpable for not putting structures in place that would enable smooth transitions when changing coaching staff.

Sometimes people try over complicate football and we see that lately with false GKs or inverted No9s or whatever the latest fad is but 11 pro players who are considered to be elite enough to play for a club like United regardless of what coach wanted them for whatever system should be able to adapt. We see with United players some look like theyve never played a pro game before

If you were to look at these stats not knowing the score you would think we won 3-0, very frustrating right now.

The worrying thing is that for some reason the expectation is that:

Any team coming to old trafford could turn over this crew in their current guise.

That the players themselves all need to be sold (in some quarters) which isn't at all feasible given the precarious situation years of underperformance and asset stripping by the Glazers has left the club in.

How many rebuilds need to happen in the club?

Some of the transfers and new contracts handed out in the past decade have been extremely poorly thought out and have led to this.

The club have been cost cutting all over the shop, it's not a good sign. A big spending window isn't gonna happen. Amorim is gonna have to work with all of these players and make them earn their wages.