US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

Meanwhile another death, in Canada, is causing schadenfreude among Americans about how great their healthcare system is compared to Canada’s socialised one.

QED.

“One” can only argue that if one thinks extrajudicial killings merely to make a point are acceptable.

Let’s not have any more pretence that “nobody here is condoning murder”. That’s exactly what’s being attempted here. By people who in the main despise capital punishment by the actual justice system as unfair and unethical. And who think America’s gun laws are dangerously lax.

It would make you laugh if it weren’t so horrible. Two teens left fatherless and they’ve to put up with their dad being called scum now as well.

I think it would be better not to turn out like Thompson or Mangione. The class they were born into has no bearing on their character. I think Americans aspire to be rich, but perhaps not becoming rich the way Mr Thompson did.

I don’t think the “either/or” is about emulation though.

It’s about how one judges the extrajudicial killing of one by the other, and the determined attempts to make the killer out to be a folk hero.

Not the case for the posters practically jubilating over his death on here though. So I don't expect it's the case for everyone doing the same in the US either. Unless they're all just nicer people than Irish posters on boards!

Not being surprised by the assassination of the CEO of a US healthcare provider with the highest rate of refusals to policy holders by a good margin does not make me jubilant.

I lived and worked there briefly and I had to opportunity to advance to citizenship but it was the obvious iniquities, high student debt and gun culture made me surmise that on the balance I was better off returning to Ireland at the time.

I've never regretted that decision, but I had retained a sift spot for it and returned a few times, but after Sandy Hook any optimism I had for the place was depleted.

If another attempt was made on Trump and it succeeded I wouldn't be surprised if it led to outright civil war, but that doesn't mean I'd relish it. For a start I've US relatives who've already joked about booking space on my floor if it goes belly up.

And if you aren't guilty of it, then why would you feel targeted by someone saying that some posters are doing that?

Would it not, for instance, be a fair reading of a comment like the one below?

Thompson, and his ilk, as the beneficiaries of a system that causes untold pain, suffering and death can logically be considered to be of negative value. Removing them from society improves it.

Can you link a post that's sympathetic to the assassin?

I've seen plenty of posts that highlight that the sharp practives of the business may have been motivation, but that doesn't make such musings sympathetic.

That's all we're doing here, musing. If I had a relative in the US who died because that company had denied them cover I may feel more than curious.

There are a few celebratory type posts alright. I guess we do have some America resident posters here who have no reason to like the dead ceo and his ilk, and plenty to hate him. It's a fine line to thread when expressing no sympathy about the death of a evil jerk like the ceo and not seem like you are also condoning his murder. But I genuinely think the majority of posters are just expressing no sympathy.

The people determined to portray him as a hero - and even those claiming to be neutral here - might like to consider why Mangione didn’t kill his own family. Given that part of their empire that paid for his top class education seems to have been a chain of nursing homes which has been accused of abuse of its inpatients.

That’s true everywhere though. Most people asked about their healthcare system probably haven’t been very ill.

We still consider their opinions to be valid.