DART+ (DART Expansion)

Such as? Care to explain or give an example of one of the unrealistic demands?

My understanding is that these units have CCTV in the cabs, which no other trains do. They also have a camera that looks straight into the face of the driver and can detect if the driver closes their eyes to long or is distracted or something like that. Drivers rightly see that as an overreach and not needed as they safely drive up and down the network everyday without such monitoring.

I'm not a driver or Irish Rail employee, so I don't know what they are against. CCTV in the cab is not a safety measure. There is no CCTV or such monitoring on a pilot in charge of an aircraft. The drivers I presume are the professionals and operate in a safe manner everyday. The deadman covers a driver being distracted or going unconscious. Also these trains will be operating with the latest signalling technology too, so will be very safe in any event.

Drivers on their mobile phone is a common sight in the Dublin stations.

It's a human right.

Driver alertness systems are quite common in cars these days, as has already been mentioned. They are very much a safety device and you would think that drivers would welcome additional safety systems such as this. It a bit mind boggling as to why an employee would be against such a safety measure.

Same for any CCTV type cameras that could be in the cab. Again, these provide additional safeguards and extra levels of reassurance in terms of personal safety for the driver.

The role a train driver is to be drive a train and all the ancillary tasks associated with such a role. There are rules and regulations in place and certain things are not permitted. Should a driver be doing his/her job correctly, then said driver has nothing to worry about.

This carry on reminds me of people who moan about speed cameras on public roads. When you get into in-depth conversation with such a begrudger, you often discover that the person is a habitual speeder and doesn't like to follow the rules in place and the problem the person has is that he/she does not want to be caught and punished for breaking the rules and that's the actual reasoning for being against speed safety cameras.

I disagree completely.

Currently we have arguably just 5 heavy rail stations within what I would term as “popular Dublin” (rather than a generic CBD terminology that can vary depending on your perspective) that are rapid transit style. Those would be Lansdowne Road, Grand Canal Dock, Pearse, Tara and Connolly. These service arguably one line (I know you can do Commuter Rail to DART at times as well).

I do not include Heuston there as I do not view occasional commuter services as meeting that threshold. Spencer Dock is an end of the line temporary station. Drumcondra is a commuter rail stop with infrequent services. Broombridge is the same and less central.

DART+ will immediately make each of those a heavy rail rapid transit style stations. It will of course also add in Cross Guns (which I consider part of this project, even if under the ML planning orbit).

That would be an immediate doubling of stations and additionally would automatically improve the utility of the existing stations.

It will immediately broaden the scope of “useful” Dublin to north of the canal. Places like the Phoenix Park immediately more accesible. Ditto neighbourhoods like Phibsborough and Drumcondra & even the entire area around Heuston, bringing them fully (imo) into the orbit of “useful Dublin”.

I’d argue that it is as transformational as Metrolink, perhaps more so when you consider it in the round.

People’s thought process will shift straight away on the utility of these lines and possibilities of getting around the city.

It is not at all "canned". The railway works will proceed while a new plan is made for the depot.

All covered previously. The design accounted for flood risks, but ABP examiners considered those measures inadequate, specifically in one part of the site. It was a difference of professional opinion, but unfortunately ABP's is the one that counts.

Barring a JR on South West (when does that window expire?) There is no reason it could not proceed to construction.

While the depot may be needed to actually run the service its no bar to constructing the corridor.

There are 2 systems. CCTV looking at the Cab and the Red Eye system that detect driver tiredness.

The problem is with the CCTV as far as I am aware.

Those systems are there for Security reasons.

CCTV in a train drivers cab will end up being used against a train driver, not provide security.

I don't think Luas drivers have CCTV on the driver.

Agree with @bk as well. If a driver/employee is doing his/her job as per the rules laid out for the job, how can CCTV be used in a negative manner against that person?