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Election to be called Fri - predict outcome

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Satisfied with the results in my cons(Kildare North). As i predicted(and voted), Farrelly, Lawless and Naoise will all take or have taken a seat. And as L10 predicted it would mean Durkan would lose his seat.

    Great results for Soc Dem, but who knows if they'll be given the opportunity or indeed their members vote to go in to government.

    FF will likely have a 10 seat lead over FG i believe? If so, that could mean we don't get the rolling Taoiseach nonsense, well you'd hope anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭riddles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭Seadin


    It was a pity he got a seat. Pity he didn't go out like all the other Greens. Useless in government. Hope they never make it back again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭DaSchmo


    Amazing that the objectively worst performing TD of the greens kept his seat. He left a trail of destruction behind him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    If Coppinger & Currie are getting elected ahead of you, i think it says more of the quality of candidates as a whole, more than anything else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Awful set of candidates. We won't hear from Currie or Donnelly again until the next election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jack Chambers saying a new government won't be formed before Christmas. What a farce.

    Nothing will be done until mid January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    O'Gorman knew the importance of keeping that seat. He knows he will be a darling of RTE and will get plenty of airtime to lecture us on our impending doom.

    Meanwhile we will manage on climate change initiatives fine without the Greens. A dedicated Green party has been a redundant need for a while now with EU commitments locked into any programme for government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    He'll be the new Brid Smith, someone who appears on every panel unfortunately. I wouldn't mind if it was A N Other Green, but not this fella



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    So I'm calling it

    FG: 38

    SF: 39

    FF 48



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    McGahon eliminated. The electorate doing what Harris hadn't the balls to do and cost his party a lot of their lead in the polls in what has to be one of the worst campaigns in modern history.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    ya looks like 86 it is. Two short of a majority and about 8 for an effective working majority. O ca not see them going with Labour or SD, two much idealigical baggage and too many seats around the table gone.

    4 II TD's gets them halfway to 8, Micheal Lowry and Verona Murphy are probably dependable. The Boxer ( is back) and Canny have shown they can last the course. There is probably 3-4 more that can be depended on if the deal is right. Mattie is 66, will Brian Stanley want to be the first SF TD to have a say in government. Noel Grelish is 58.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭pureza


    To be fair Harris couldn’t win there

    Alienating an organisation in Louth was not an option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭almostover


    A proven liar voted back in by his constituents. The mind boggles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    'Fair' my eye.
    McGahon's running mate had no such fears.
    Quite clear they hoped to sneak that one in under the radar and got caught like a rabbit in the headlights. Same with the O'Brien debacle.

    Hadn't the balls or the nous to get ahead of those issues and it cost them. Add the PR disasters and it was a shocking campaign and I am sure there are angry seatless FGers because of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭almostover


    What are you on about? Homophobia my backside, the man purposely kept the AG's advice from the voting public in the referenda earlier this year. He is deceitful. Pity his constituents forgot that. Of all the GP TD's to be re-elected he is one of the least deserving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Bacik sounding a bit more desperate now that it's clear FF and FG have a lot of options for forming a government unlike 2020. Still talking about a left alliance even though that would make them an even less appealing prospect for government.

    While the prospect of keeping the Soc Dems and Labour out of government is nice, I'd be worried about the promises required to get some of the independents on board. Constituency bribes are unfortunately inevitable, but that won't be enough for some independents who will want to see things like limits on Dublin Airport and who want less investment in infrastructure in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,602 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,608 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    II do not have a whip on many issues - if they go in as a partner it will be a hilarious government term.

    Herding cats comes to mind

    Ivana bacik desperately wants to be in govt even if her labour peers don't want to after having seen the Greens get annihilated (see AORs statement over weekend). I could see Bacik dragging the party into govt and fulfilling the lifecycle of the labour party (rebuild, political mudguard, destruction, rebuild)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Moths to the flame.

    In fairness to Bacik, she has done great work to get Labour back to where they are. It was uphill a lot of the way. Would she be stupid enough to blow it all for a Ministerial post is the question.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,602 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Independent Ireland won't get near government. Their anti abortion, immigration and vaccination stances are too much of a liability.

    They seem pretty anti taxation too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    You say it like it is a bad thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    If Soc Dems aren't in the next Government they have a real opportunity over the next few years to become a force in Irish politics. A lot of the elected TD's are young and if they don't go any way radical, they could have a bright future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭Seadin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    They need to concentrate on giving everyone a chance to vote for them. No candidate in Cavan Monaghan for instance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,309 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Indos it is..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    She won't need to. As it stands FFG have 79 seats, 9 more gives them a majority

    Constituencies still in play

    Cork North Central is gone to a recount to determine if Mick Barry (PBP) or Eoghan Kenny (LAB) will take a seat so no difference to be made

    Tip North - Ryan O'Meara of FFG likely to +1

    Cavan-Monaghan - Barring a disaster Brendan Smith and Niamh Smyth of FFG should take seats so likely +2

    Louth unless the FFG transfers go to an indie (highly unlikely) there will be 2 FFG elected so likely +2

    Kildare North - there's only 3 FFG candidates and one SF left for the remaining 4 seats. FFG is most likely +2 here as well

    So that's another 7 seats, now they're just 2 short of a majority, make a deal with the Healy-Raes or even just consider their gene pool candidates and they're home

    My advice - buy a health insurance plan unless you want to die in a public hospital over the next 5 years and if you've not already bought a home make sure your childhood room is decorated nicely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Exactly, they can build on this success and be seen as a credible alternative with the electorate next time round. That's assuming they keep their noses clean for the next 5 years or so



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Buying off a few Independents with constituency perks sounds infinitely better than the ideological issues that have hindered governing with the last 4.5 years.

    There's 7-8 Independents who are far more suited to FF + FG's base than either Labour or the Soc Dems.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Unless you want some more stool pigeons and cannon fodder like the Greens to take the rap for you.



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