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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well assume just made an ass of me, whatever about the rest of you. Are Pearses more beatable opponents for Ballina (or Strandhill, just to be on the safe side this time)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭crusd


    That is not entirely the case. The teams with the best players would be in the best position however the new rules seriously impact the game plans of some teams. So who can adapt quickest may be in a stronger position next year relative to perceived stronger sides. In 2-3 years it should level out but in year 1 an opportunity exists for a breakthrough. It wont be a Meath or Louth or anything, and while the likely result is the winner will come from the top 4 or 5 teams this year, there is an opportunity for anyone in the top 10 to come through if they can adapt better than teams above them.

    For what its worth my ranking going in to next year assuming no rule change with Armagh at 1 as defending champions is:

    Armagh - Kerry - Galway - Dublin - Donegal - Derry - Mayo - Tyrone - Roscommon - Cork - Monaghan - Cavan.

    The gaps between teams are not huge though, so adapting to the new rules better could make a massive difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I'm not clear on what you are saying there. You say its still likely that the winners will come from the top 4 or 5 teams which is what I'd agree with. In other words with rule changes it's still the best teams most likely to win. But you also suggest an increased chance for teams inside the top 10 with rule changes. I'd argue that the likes of Roscommon cork cavan won't be within an asses roar of winning it no matter what new rules are brought in. The top teams willl logically have the best long range kickers outside the 40 for example. Mayo may slip down the order on that point but hardly below the teams I mentioned there.

    Post edited by Westernview on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,000 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I'd put Donegal top of that list rule change or no rule change - they came within a sliver of getting to the final last year, look to be enhancing their panel this year and defo have the hunger.

    Armagh will be like Tyrone - wont be able get out of Ulster, let alone win a second in a row. Hard to see Galway picking themselves up after last year and they have key players with injury and consistency issues. They had a great chance last year and blew it. Kerry and Dublin - I dunno, I amn't convinced by either.

    That said, there's not much between the top few there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    There is an element of "hope" about a breakthrough but the better teams will just bring a new strategy with the proposed rules, but the top teams will execute this under the extreme pressure in a semi or final and win, because they have more skilful intelligent footballers. Alot of teams will use the league to examine the new rules and how best to play. You may get an breakthrough in the provincial games but by the time the quarters/semi come, the top teams will be well oiled. There is an element of the more things change, the more they stay the same, as one of the top teams will most likely win SAM. Paddy power has the top teams below but I would remove Galway from that as I don't think they have what it takes. Are Mayo a top team….no but can they…. possibly but there are alot of ifs and buts about us and there is nothing to suggest at this point in time that we are a top team. If you think we are, in my opinion that is "hope", I would need to see clear and consistent improvement before I would classify us in that bracket.

    The likely winner will be from below excluding Galway

    Kerry

    Dublin

    Galway

    Donegal

    Armagh



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Armagh came from relatively nowhere to win this year. In 2023, both Armagh and Donegal were relegated and looked like they were far from the top table. Now they are both seen as contenders. The rule change will ensure a shake up in the order but it remains to be seen who benefits the most. All to play for for any division 1 and top half of division 2 teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    What McGuinness did this year with Donegal is really impressive and if he improves the team, they should be in the mix. Armagh while not wining Ulster have been knocking around towards the end of the championship for a few years. I would disregard the league as teams use it to breed new talent. It takes experience over a year or so, to start beating the favourites in CP. Its very hard to see a new county come out of nowhere and win SAM unless they find some serious players.

    You could make an case that 2021 and 2010 were handy wins for teams who never returned to the same heights. This years final has this same feel about it but Armagh would have a better over all team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    here jn Sligo at the ballina game. Pretty dour stuff so far…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    debatable did it cross the line no goal for ballina there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    extra time



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,693 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    penalties 😬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Ballina beaten



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Arkiema


    what's going on in the county setup lads? Are there rumours doing the rounds of a few high profile departures from the squad? I haven't heard anything myself, just what I've seen referenced on Mayo Blog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Where are the rumours coming from and who is rumoured to have departured?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Its mad...

    3 or 4 of the loonbags who comment on the blog says there's rumours and then that's it set in stone.

    I only know of two (fringe) players who have opted out this year.There may be more.

    Usual turnover of a squad from one season to the next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Was floating around a few weeks back that five had pulled out. Two - four would be panel players at different times and one in particular could never be consistent enough/injured - had ample opportunities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Sounds like another non story. Blog members are quite rightly forbidden from posting unpublished rumour details so it's pretty pointless saying there are rumours when no more can be said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Its just the quiet time of year and i've known of people starting rumours just to be able to talk about football at this time of year!

    All the best rumours start around this time of year!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Nobody does rumours quite like Mayo.

    We are All-Ireland champions in this category of excellence..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Cillian O'Connor was one name I seen posted up on the blog before the mod took the post down. He'd be 33 when the championship is in the business end next year and he has been dealing with a lot of injuries in recent years.

    Post edited by blowitupref on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,635 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Meanwhile in Dublin Brian Fenton has actually retired !!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭Westernview


    He may well retire but the rumour is probably based on the fact that he is one of the more likely candidates to finish up. It would be nice if Mayo supporters would let that happen naturally.

    A lot of supporters can't deal with the down season and have to engage in speculation. The rest of us have more going on in our lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭crusd


    Hard to beleive he is 31.

    With McCarthy, Fenton and likely Fitzsimmons gone too Dublin could struggle next year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,635 ✭✭✭✭km79


    time for a few Leinster teams to be brave now and go after them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes the mindset needs to change. Kildare especially seem to have lots of potential at times but the belief/conviction seems to be missing to really put teams to the sword.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Mayo News podcast saying Cillian O'Connor won't be playing for Mayo in 2025.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    edit - just seeing the headline now on the blog. Wonder what that’s all about, will have to have a listen later.



  • Posts: 353 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This needs to be kept in perspective, he might have been impactful a few years ago but between injuries and other off field choices and the generation that is coming through he hasn't really done anything of note in a few years. Even when introduced as a sub he hasn't made anywhere a super sub impact that you would be hoping for.

    Does feel he wants to be a bit of a Cluxton and have drama around him, but in reality Dublin needs Cluxton more than Mayo needs O'Connor (which is a good thing imo) so he should cut the attention seeking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭spakman


    He hasn't said a word! How is he seeking attention?



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