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Election to be called Fri - predict outcome

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Its hard to see past another FFG led coalition albeit I think the Greens will be trounced again as folk always do with the junior party.

    So it'll be FFG and a 3rd party and a few independents.

    SF are swimming against their own issues and if the opinion polls are accurate? Will be hard pressed to hold onto the number of seats won in 2020. They could still be the foundation of a "Coalition of the left" but I can't see them gaining enough support to do so.

    I'm in Limerick city constituency and the likely returned TD's will be O'Dea, Quinlivan, and one of either Sheehan or Daly taking the 4th seat IMO. Last election Daly transferred well to Leddin on his elimination, this time round I expect that to be reversed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    what went wrong ? million more people

    There was a steady rise in data centre consumption from 290 Gigawatt hours in January to March (Q1) 2015 to 

    1,661 GWh in October to December (Q4) 2023

    might have something to do with it

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    The point would be, here is your alternative. You can stick with FFG or you can give this alliance a go. At the moment, people think voting for one of the others is a waste of a vote because they're not going into power anyway. If it actually was a viable option, people might vote for something different. The greens have to water down their policies anyway with FFG. They might actually have a better chance of getting things they want done with the rest of the alternatives. The same with Labour, SF, PBP, any aligned independents etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    I wonder to what extent the Soc Dems will be impacted by the retirement of Shorthall and Murphy? Holly Cairns is to have a baby in a fortnight- best of luck to them both - but in fairness, her visibility will be impacted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    They could have done this a few weeks ago in the budget. If anyone believes them on this, they are more stupid than I thought



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,026 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    In an ideal world Labour and SD would merge.

    Basically clashing ideologies and egos stopping SD, Labour, PBP, SF, Greens working together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Comprising wouldn't be the leading word in any of those parties vocabulary but they have some things in common. There's definitely common ground there. If they ever really want an alternative they'll have to put egos aside. I think it would be good for all of us to have a viable alternative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,677 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    How would a merger help? Previous left mergers, like Labour and DL ended up being smaller than the sum of the original parts.

    So Gilmore should have stayed out of Government and let FG blast away with support from Ross and a few other indies, with their planned push for pure Tory policies, like selling off €5 billion of state assets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    The only people that want Labour and the SDs to merge are some people who don't follow SD and Labour supporters

    The SDs just doubled their seats in local elections, why in the name of God would they merge with a party like Labour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭pauly58


    The late, great George Carlin viewed it differently.

    • And secondly, I don't vote 'cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know; they say... they say "Well, if you don't vote, you have no right to complain." But where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem. You voted them in. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand...
    • [laughter]
    • George Carlin: ...who did not vote... who did not vote... who, in fact, did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I hate to say it but I think that Sinn Fein will moer than likely get in, or if not go 50/50ish with FF.

    I don't think they'll lose votes. The people who backed them in 2020 are still there, even with the narrative that they have gotten immigration wrong for their main support group. IMHO these same people aren't too concerned about the recent scandals either.

    In many ways I'd morbidly like to see them have a shot in leading government if only to show up their lack of any substantial policy on anything outside of a 32 county Ireland.

    Mary Lou is credible but well past her sell by date. I've dealt professionally with a lot of their back benchers and they are just pitiful. In the whole, their entry into the party and reason to be is exclusively a "F the brits" mentality.

    "F the brits" is great n all but it doesn't build houses, put petrol in your car or add anything of substance in modern day Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Can you tell us what FF and FG are going about building houses (on track to have lower house builds than last year)

    How they doing on petrol prices?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Hard to listen to FFG spouting nonsense about what they'll do to make things better.

    YOU'VE BEEN IN POWER FOR 100 YEARS

    Why haven't you done it???

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    They have committed to an average of 50k new homes per year from 2025 to 2030, with 60k in 2030.

    They are also very likely to build more than SF and thats what matters.

    Petrol will not be priortised by any govt. We have carbon emmission targets that are not going away, so hybrid and electric will be any govt's focus, along with a switch to public transport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    you don't think the country is better than 100 years ago? It's way, way better both in absolute terms and relative to pretty much every country in the world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I suppose my point was being how credible Sinn Fein are with their promises and how one note they are with everything.

    Their housing plan is 300,000 dwellings in five years. That is 170 odd houses a day. Given there has been no mention of labour or land needed it would border on fictitious.

    I'd love to be proven wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    They have committed to them all right. They have failed to reach their housing targets for every year of this Govt

    Why should we trust them now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    That's not true.

    2022 the target was 24,600 and 29,800 were built.

    2023 the target was 29,000 and 32,695 were built.

    2024 the target is 33,000 and will probably be reached.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Apologies, they have missed every social and affordable housing target in every year of this Govt but then again the people relying on this type housing don't usually vote FG so they couldn't care less



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,347 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Holly Cairns skewered Martin re the number of affordable homes built on the last day of the Dail. She had all the data and Martin refused to answer her questions. He was actually embarrassing himself because we repeated the question and he avoided it. Floundered completely. They have failed the affordable houses target significantly and he knew it but couldn't admit it. They had promised 50,000 and delivered 1000.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    And what were those targets? If they missed them, you need to state them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    A portion of sinn fein vote has gone right wing, I only see another ff/fg coalition with independents, not sure they even need a minority party this time. It's on SF there isn't a viable alternative again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Watching VM for the news this morning, one of the Sunday papers says FF & FG are looking to Labour as possible 3rd party in a potential coalition.
    They must think Labour are going to get the number of seats to push FFG over the line.
    I had to look at my calendar to make sure it’s not April 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Deary me Harry, have you normalised that for pipeline AND seasonality?

    I suspect not, but I’d like you to give me a bit more analysis here (and no, an Indo article on us being a couple of hundred homes shy of last year at this stage does not suffice).

    Harris with his 40k was moronic (not unsurprising for him) but it is likely we will again beat last year.

    You know we exceeded the targets last year and built the most per head in Europe, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Is this the same Soc Dems who either lied over the contactless ticketing tender or were too thick to understand it (likely the latter with them).

    https://twitter.com/feljin_j/status/1847560403754140019?s=46&t=hy6wc4bLZMiyfotc20UniQ


    There were over 15k government schemes homes completed in 2023 so I’m curious on what specifics she was calling out here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,533 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    First LOL moment of the campaign. Here's hoping they keep this up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I’m watching TWIP. The promises coming out of the politicians mouths is mind boggling. All those leaves falling off the trees must be gold lined.

    EDIT: gosh but that Jennifer Carroll McNeill comes across as incredibly arrogant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,677 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Way to go in losing any chance of votes from teachers, FG. Or teacher's partners. Or teachers mammys and daddys.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,751 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Virtually all teachers I've ever known the politics of are FF voters through and through, excepting those who were actually FG or Labour politicians. Don't think there's many votes to be lost there.



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