Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

hi

Quite. Now how many votes were there between Biden and Trump again? This election will end up with about half that gap

Are you sure about that?

A casual glance on here shows people talking about that.

Is it not a given now that polls mean SFA at this stage.

So many campaigns have blown poll projections out of the water.

The 2020 election was a complete outlier with different rules and temporary laws brought in to allow much more mail-in and early voting during Covid. It's not really comparable to any election before or since.

Once the result was apparent early this morning I deliberately stayed away from news websites, social media etc. I wasn't impressed with either candidate but trump is certainly the worst of a bad lot.

I struggle with anxiety and couldn't get my head around the result or the prospects for the world for the next four years. I'm not trying to come across as dramatic or cowardly. I guess at 46 years of age I've already seen a lot. I think the world ( and I include Ireland) has become a truly horrible place. Humanity and respect are in the gutter.

And that's not going to change any time soon.

That's how it was rigged against Trump in 2020, Trump ,who told everyone and his dog to not to use mail in voting, while the Democrats sent millions of them out. This time round Trump told everyone use mail in votes, vote early, get your hands on as many mail in ballots as possible, and get everyone to sign it up and send it back.

You're describing the world under Biden though. I don't recall any of this under Trump in 2016. The world was booming, until covid hit.

Think one of the visa information sites crashed last time.

He's going to make it way, way worse. Between his ridiculous tariff proposals and giving the green light to oligarchs to further destroy the middle class, all while profiteering, we're goosed. Good luck buying a home in the future. Not going to be a lot of construction going on after Trump deports 5, 10, 20 million undesirables.

Not having enough money to cover the cost of your family's weekly groceries is an existential issue and lower (in the sense of more fundamental) on the hierarchy of needs. Biological males playing in women's sports might píss lots of people off, but if Trump attempts to distract from the former by talking about the latter, it's just bad politics and service of the public. The elimination of biological males from women's sports won't fill your belly.

Yeah the Trump camp effectively suppressed their own vote in 2020. It was obvious from an early point. There were articles about the "red mirage" in advance.

Thankfully it does appear to be scaling back in Ireland.

The influence from the Democrats in terms of the identity politics has resulted in a culture of blandness where a lot of people are afraid to move outside of what they see as "progressive".

Watching Harris' speech, one line stuck out to me as hypocritical. I'll quote it exactly when I get a transcript of it.