Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Note the lack of stolen, fraud, rigged allegations coming from the losing side or the supporters. Concession, contact, peaceful transfer of power, will certify the results without any incited chaos, attend the inauguration etc. Trump won in a free and fair election but recalling his lack own lack of class and dignity back in late 2020 and early 2021 when he lost a free and fair election shows that the chaos is back front and centre. He'll play the statesman for a while and then he'll be back as the provocateur with a mandate to give Project 2025 a go. A criminal is the President of the United States. It's genuinely stunning.

Didn't we try that a few years ago. Athlone was to be a Chinese hub with 100,000 workers/ factories for the EU. They wanted 3,000,000 there!

It's there.

You don't have to look too deep. Keri Lake potentially losing will bring out some stuff on the behalf of Dems. Conversation will turn to the cry foul that Reps were calling on dodgy ballot boxes.

Interest has spiked today...

Will probably be dead in 12 months from a very severe "exploding arse" attack.

Ya good man, he had a 3 part series of UK in 70s a few years ago.

Added bonus James O brien doesn’t like him mainly I think because he has a column in the Mail.

If you want to blame anyone blame Obama for not allowing Bernie Saunders or Biden to take on Trump in 2016. HC bought too much baggage and was too much of a feminist and progressive to relate to the 50% of people in the US that do not go to college and most of whom work sub 20 dollar an hour jobs.

Who would they have chosen instead of Biden, Michelle Obama, Trump would have wiped the floor with her as well. Matt Cooper had Marion McKeown and Cal Thomas along with Larry Donnelly on this even Donnelly called it right on how the Democratic party are misreading the room. On abortion right he said Bill Clinton had it right "legal, medically safe and rare" but that was not not enough for the progressives. A lot of young back men, Hispanics and middle aged american men and women are not politically energised by abortion rights, or about LGBT and the sport mess it creates. Danny Healy Rae was right after he apologised to Paul Murphy when he added it was the child he was sorry for.

Looking at the numbers I actually think a lot of middle American GOP supporters did not vote at all. Trump won this election on the back of Democrat voters who are fed up with progressives with the Democrats. It's not putting bread and butter on there table.

Nancy Pelosi making the statement that non college educated white men were going to ruin the US says a lot about the attitude of the hierarchy within sections of the Democratic party. As Donnelly said there is no place in the Democratic tent for people who are religious or those that are conservative in there outlook.

A large section of the Irish political structure is that way as well, Simon Harris has slightly rolled FG back from that edge.⁹

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What riles me (as someone who very much wanted to see Trump lose) is how so many people put 'the economy' on Biden and the Democrats didn't manage to inform them that the post-Covid inflation was very much market lead and happened world wide. If anything Biden's Covid recovery act served to help the US out of that better than other places, but still people weren't made to see it that way.

I mean, the idea that the President could step in and influence what was happening in the market as it did, should be alien to Conservative ideals where they supposedly want less and less government intervention. But still, Biden got the blame and Harris probably suffered as a consequence.

So far today I've seen the left blaming misogyny,racism,Biden,black men,white men,Latinos,Hispanics,Tim Walz and white women for Harris losing. As for the adult men and women crying into their phones on social media for attention, they would want to get a serious grip of themselves

I remember being told back on this forum in about March or April that Biden's figures v. Trump looked so bad because the regular electorate hadn't even woken up to the impending election, and it was only after Labour Day (?) when they'd come online and we'd start to see a shift in the polling.

Never happened.

I don't want to name any names to confront some posters here with their incredibly off-base predictions about US politics, but there have been some absolute whoppers bandied about, here.

I could go back and find the one about how Trump's base would eventually die off, though, but even as I said to that poster at the time, it's a bit like a hippy in the 60s taking a toke on his joint before going, "Maaaan, when all these uncool squares die off, the future's gonna be totally far-out and psychadelic!". It just completely misses the apparent reality that new generations will always get pulled into conservative or even reactionary modes of thought.

My own modest prediction for the election was that both candidates would break 70 million, but Harris looks set to fall a bit short of that and way, way short of Biden's total in 2020, a number I never saw her coming close to matching, anyway.

Trump came armed with the tools to play dirty and win the fight. The Dems played the wrong game by not going down and dirty like him and lost.

Kinkier.

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Harris will end up with about 72million. Almost half of Calaifornia still to be counted. Lots it Oregon and Washington state too. Trump will end up at about 75million. So about 9million didn’t bother turning up who did last time. Harris lost. But Trump didn’t gain anything

What's Trump going to do about inflation, exactly?

I've heard lots of people talking about how things cost less under Trump the last time, but I didn't hear them say he got those prices down in the first place.

If Trump doesn't manage to tackle inflation in any tangible way, I hope his supporters will be as critical of him on the matter as they have been of the Biden administration these last four years. Then again, if the heat about it does come on, Trump can always just go, "Look, everybody - a biological male trying to play women's sports!", and then laugh while shaking his head at how easy it is to distract a whole lot of people.