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Dispute with mod

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    First of all, you don't grasp the idea that the report button is used to get a mods attention. It's up to the mod to decide if action is warranted or not. It doesn't matter if a post has been reported once, twice or twenty times. Even though that's been said to you many times on this thread, you're still here with this notion that how many reports are made somehow matter.

    Also given the higher ratio on one side then it’s likely the report function will be used more by one side more too, imo the current report process is too heavy handed, and in the example of that particular thread it’s actually a barrier to an evenly discussed topic.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    I’m not getting into politics here, I’m using the Harris trump thread as a perfect example of what happens when there is a majority on one side, and how that can affect moderating , especially moderating via response to the report function.

    Do you disagree that if there is a 10:1 majority on one side in a discussion, especially on a divisive thread, that moderating is impacted by the majority?

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,585 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    You'd have to prove that premise first. I see nothing whatsoever to indicate a 10:1 ratio.

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    Leviticus 19:34



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,552 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    @erlichbachman it has been mentioned multiple times. There is no issue with the report feature. Posts don't get warned just because they are reported. I would say about 50% of reported posts don't require action.

    Stop discussing the report function. It works perfectly fine and doesn't need any change. It will not be changed.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'm not advocating for details of reports to be published, but is there anything that sticks out as being the most reported issue that doesn't require mod action?



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,552 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    People reporting something as "uncivil" or "attacking the poster" just for disagreeing with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Not really Leg End.

    There are some reports that are way below the threshold of an action. I just assume that people get caught in the heat of the moment and press the report button. I don't mind these coming through as it gives some insights on posting patterns on a thread, although I will admit that people shouting "trolling" often can get old very quickly.

    Personally, I really appreciate when someone reporting a post spends a few seconds to add a sentence on why a post is worth a look. Very useful to me to have a bit of context and make a more informed decision. There were a handful of reported posts (thankfully very few) where I scratch my head to understand why that post was even reported. These come across as "petty" reporting in my opinion, driven by the fact posters have disagreements on thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    it is 100% false to claim that the number of reports does not affect moderation.

    There have been umpteen threads and comments from mods, cmods and admins on this help desk and the feedback area where it's has been categorically stated that the amount of reports generated from a thread has been the reason for closure.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    That was the reason given for the closure of the AH Wokeism thread. Why read a thread just to get offended?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    All that says is that the thread was a total mess and the best action would be to close it down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    The claim was the number of reports doesn't impact whether a comment was sanctioned or not.

    What you're talking about is completely different.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I would agree with this.

    Every other post in a thread being reported in a contentious thread is different to one post being reported multiple times.

    And I would think, if a post is actionable, it is actionable whether reported once, or reported ten times by different posters.

    At least, I hope that is how it works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,354 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Suggestion for consideration, given that tonight is the big night as far as some of the most contentious threads go - the US election:

    That the CA mods put a pre-emptive warning, whichever side wins, zero tolerance of any gloating at posters on the thread.
    Obviously one side or the other will be happier with the outcome \ their predictions, and will express that and there may be some comments remarked on that didn't age well, but it shouldn't go beyond that.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I had also put in a report, based off a post I had seen, about whether there should be some on thread warning about pouring gasoline on bunk 'stolen election' nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Ah…but how would a mod determine what "gloating" was?

    In theory a poster could be sanctioned for merely being happy that the person they didn't want in the WH didn't win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,354 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I think in sporting terms it'd be the difference between celebrating and rubbing it in someones face...

    Yes team X won, we needed that...

    Versus

    Hey either named poster or all you fans of X, how'd you like that. Dont cry too hard into those cornflakes

    Etc

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Let's be honest, If I wake up tomorrow and Trump has been voted in, I'll just think to myself "idiots" and then I'll go about my day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Maybe people read it for the laughs, only the thread never lived up to its premise and laughs were thin on the ground.. Lots of trans bashing, women's prisons, women's sports, the usual.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Just had a read of the last page of the original thread, it's taking the piss out of an article talking about microagressions and intersectionality, only saw one post that might warrant reporting.

    The second thread was closed because people were discussing mod actions, the discussion being, 'why was the last thread closed?'

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058109483/wokeism-of-the-day-revised-mod-note-in-op-and-threadbanned-users/p241



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Yeah I believe people got peed off because the thread got closed. I don't think that thread would fly now at all, even though it was not that long ago. No matter how many warnings were given out, the thread always defaulted to type.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Could have thrived in CA but I don’t think the “mod team”, at the time, wanted it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Murt2024


    How do you close your account please, banned for posting some of Trump's comments which I 100% agree with about Trans people in sports and child mutilation in his rallies from crazy parents . If you can't talk about positive changes he is going to make what's the point of even been on boards.

    Edit: Actually permanent ban me please which is probably handier. **** boards and all it's users. Thanks

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭TherapyBoy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




    The election thread for months has been simply a completely toxic thread where debate was “slammed”- it started with calling posters “rapist sympathisers” after which I opened a thread about in feedback and had to fight for moderators to come to the table to ban this behaviour - I shouldn’t have had to do that.

    There was absolutely no moderation in that thread for the vast majority of the election - I don’t care what mod comes here and says otherwise, there wasn’t. I’m not interested in lectures at this stage so don’t even think of challenging that statement - it was left to run wild and self moderate by posters who were quite simply bullies - I and others have had multiple bans and warnings for pathetic reasons when a core of posters treated the thread like their own personal playground- and were certainly never banned for their vile behaviour - again I’m not interested in a mod challenge on this - they weren’t it’s fact!

    However with the latest appointment of new mods, and in particular one, I think it was Necro - they posted an on thread warning to me and another poster to “ignore” each other - I replied saying I certainly would -I stood by that I thought that was a decent intervention given they appreciated we both were posting on the election thread and 2 days out, wouldn’t have wanted a ban- but what did the other poster do in less than 24 hours? They started quoting my posts again- two different ones- baiting me again to reply - I mean FFS- a new mod gives you a break - and you basically tell them to fck off- what a wanker. .


    This was a poster who treated the thread as their own - so sorry I’ve absolutely no pity for certain posters today if they’re being abused on the election thread. While I haven’t done so myself, I certainly won’t be reporting any that do - but then again we know these posters are well able to report posts when it suits them



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,432 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Deep breath, feel better now?

    The thread was moderated, not to your standards perhaps, but it was and will continue to be, and to say it wasn't is frankly ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭nachouser


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    Post edited by nachouser on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I won’t go back and forth with you -,I posted what I posted- it’s a true and genuine belief - I hold it to this day to be true as do many posters - I hold no “grudges” to you or other moderators - I just believe it’s fact - and I’ve the warnings bans and prison bars to prove it- I had to create a thread in feedback to stop posters calling other posters who dared to criticise Harris- “rapist sympathisers” - that’s fact - so yes I stand by my post - for the main the thread wasn’t moderated .

    I’m not posting in anger - I don’t need “deep breaths” - I’m very calm and very factual - I’ve described what I’ve gone through in a very honest way - yes I’ve got warnings bans and prison - I’m not excusing those - but I’ve also highlighted just how bloody hard it was in that thread and just how some posters got away with blue murder and are quite simply laughing at moderation on this site - I’m sorry I can’t describe it any further - if you don’t accept that there’s nothing further I can do - all I ask is take it into account for future threads of a similar nature and put robust rules in place in advance



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Dude, you won, enjoy it. No point looking back in anger. Take the win and move forward.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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