Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Ukraine will have to agreed to peace, Trump can't force them. Same with Putin, Trump said he'd tell Putin enough, and if he Putin keeps going, Trump said ,'' I will arm Ukraine to the teeth''

I’m sick at the thoughts of the kind of damage that’s going to be done by that man over the next 4 years. I don’t think many people realise the potential that an unchecked Trump president can do globally. Literally, the biggest bully in the schoolyard has a free pass from any ramifications on any of their actions.

But it’s really been coming a long time, probably super charged by 2007 financial crisis where it was ruthless capitalism for the average Joe and bail outs for any institution systematically important to the economy that had gotten into trouble. The Dems and politician establishment around western democracies have been consistently complacent and have been relying on the more extreme parties/people imploding , rather then offering up any meaningful alternative.

I struggle to hold back my own thoughts on these “dumb people” as you call them. Turkeys voting for Christmas seems more accurate but I feel this sort of mindset has been part of the problem. “They need to wisen up and see that even though Dems are bad, Trump is far worse”. You can be right about what you say but wrong in how you say it and this is a defining problem for Dems when they roll out the big guns to lecture everyone on the right thing to do and not to “support racism, sexism etc”.

We all need to reflect on how we got here, including those who did and don’t vote for him. Or the people on here gleefully enjoying the fear many people have on the damage he could do. There’s this dysfunctional them v Us sentiments here and across western democracies that’s flourishing by making us see those “on the other team” needing to be brought down a peg or two.

I’ve been apathetic to politics for a long time now in Ireland. I personally show more interest in USA because contrary to what some people think, it has more impact on us then own our election that’s mostly hiring public servants to balance the books and stay within Our lane to Berlin . If Trump does a lot of the things he says he will do, it could send us back to 2007 or worse if multi nationals start pulling out. Thats not even considering the double whammy a tariffs war would do.

I mean , I’ve not seen an election so important to the future security of the world in my lifetime. I always felt that while the world police of USA did what it wanted , it was probably the best we could hope for in terms of a super power generally regulating its impulses. Now they are more allignment with Putin and North Korea then anything resembling the coalition that provided the peaceful period in the last 100 years for western democracy’s.

I also don’t subscribe to the thought from some that Ireland won’t follow suit. It’s entirely possible we end up with similar chaotic politics because we adopt a lot of American culture. This isn’t simply about being more educated , it’s also about being more engaged in politics. What will happen if or when we go through another financial crisis ? I can predict, probably Sinn Fein , a populist movement will go old school batsh*t overboard and the new way of canvassing (proper hardcore attacks) will just become normal.

It’s like covid moving from country to country, you can convince yourself it’s not coming, but only after the fact was it obvious it was already here. Another thing that happened during Covid was how quickly countries panicked into protectionism (like Germany not letting Medical supplies already paid for goto destination country).

I’ve been pessimistic for a long time about politics in general and unfortunately this election solidifies my pessimism that we, as a species, need horrible, destructive , painful reminders of why following cult figures can do so much damage.

Biden should step aside and let her be president for a few months. If Dems are so desperate for a woman president, why not. Not like he's doing anything anyways.

If they were to move to the US, that would put them on the wrong side of some hefty tariffs that they don't want to pay to operate in EU markets, like I said, they're here to business in one of their largest markets. They won't go to the UK for much the same reasons, which only leaves other EU countries that they might potentially move to, but which have few of the advantages of operating here, low regulation/oversight , English speaking, skilled workforce and a government prepared to let them import as many workers as the want.

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She was president for 85 minutes while Biden had a colonoscopy in 2021

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2/3s? Easier to just make a figure I suppose when trying to prove a point lol.

Hah that's an interesting tidbit.

The big difference though is the PR-STV voting system. A single person / party seizing power on that kind of simple majoritarian basis is impossible.

History will show he was president of America. He can live on that note for his remaing years and be happy.

I seriously doubt this, it was quite obvious one of the reasons Biden and more so his pathetic wife were so hell bent on getting re-elected was to protect their odious degenerate of a son. He's looking at charges that could see him locked up for a very long time.

Biden said before picking a VP he'd want a woman and or someone of colour. It was a terrible way for her to enter national politics. Then she ended up on the ticket without a primary and three and a half years of not much exposure or popularity. A complete mess up by the Democrats.

You need 2/3rds of both chambers to pass and 3/4ths of the States

Not gonna happen.

What might happen are culture war laws passed like eg. a federal abortion ban. Even in states that have enshrined abortion rights in their constitutions, this will present a problem: states won't enforce those bans but federal prosecutions might still occur. And that's just one example of something they might try and get passed fairly quickly.