Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

It doesn’t matter a jot if me or anyone else consider him horrible. Plenty of horrible people have been voted in before and that is a valid democratic choice.

But why should anyone respect people who give their vote, their most powerful tool, away to a man who only considers an election valid if he wins? Why should anyone respect that choice?

I would love to know what would have happened if the Democrats had done the right thing and nominated Bernie Sanders in 2016. But we’ll never know now.

Ugh… A wealthy, private school educated, BA in 'Business', that married into the Democrat machine and instantly set up a consulting/lobbying firm off the back of her husband's connections, and so good at her job that she managed to steer her candidate into an historic loss against a half-wit goon. LOL
You think you despise these chai-oat milk latte sipping, utterly useless 'laptop-class’ grifters, but I assure you that you really don't despise them enough. They are as you point out, the superfluous and parasitic class that is indeed the real problem with America.

You conveniently ignore the fact that it was republicans under Regan who set that train rolling and every policy Trump has will exacerbate the chasm. He's used a bunch of idiots who react to slogans and entertainment from a presidential candidate as if it were an episode of a tv show.

Not intelligent enough to separate the real intentions of a man like Trump from what he says on a stage. He did nothing for anyone he promised to help last time, bar ensuring a couple of 100k more of them died of Covid than needed to. Every policy introduced caused contraction in the economy which only really became evident when his term was up and now he'll ride the wave of increased economic output brought about by policies enacted by Biden.

It's a century long story in American politics, Republicans overspending and tanking. Democrats generally doing much better in power before getting turfed for the Republican shìtshow again. But this time the clown show has really come off the rails.

Trump won because most Americans value real problems like the economy and immigration over imaginary problems like climate change and reproductive rights

I'd argue that it's actually that intransigence that wins the day for Trump.

A moderate Democrat campaign where a genuine effort is made to listen to the voter and address their concerns defeats him easily. There's nothing remarkable about the man. People just have a natural inclination to push back against obvious, over the top attempts to sway them. The Democrat campaign was full of that shite and they exposed themselves as having less virtue than Trump. That's actually difficult to do!

Becasue you have been led to believe that it exists in everything you dont like so you see it everywhere.

And it has also become a little bit of a self fulfilling with a element on the left who tend too reactionary behaviours too. "The right call this thing I support in woke, and they also call this other thing I dont support woke, so therefore because the right dont like it I should"

Not to mention the fact that these companies are here TO DO BUSINESS IN EUROPE, they are here explicitly because we are a well educated english speaking country with open access to the European market in which they are operating.

Of course they are going nowhere. Their profits however might be a different matter depending on what kind of deals the Don is looking to cut and what legal loopholes might be closed.

Exit Poll:

Democracy 35%

Economy 31%

Abortion 14%

Immigration 11%

There's a skill shortage in the US too.

How would Trump sell reshoring to the US public? "We're bringing back the jobs, and we're filling them with immigrants!"

I think you’re giving Americans as a whole too much credit. Not saying what you wrote isn’t true but I guarantee you there are huge demographics (older generation, young males, the majority of the white population) who would never vote for a woman as president. They see the economy is in trouble, and not trending in their best interests, and think a woman won’t fix it.

To be clear, this isn’t my view but having been based in the states during the Clinton/Trump election, I on several occasions heard men say they would never vote for a woman. He’s been involved in three presidential elections now and he only lost one, to a male. People will come up with a plethora of reasons Harris didn’t win but the Americans as a country have a very different mindset to what we have in Ireland

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Speaks to a real failure by the Democrats to publicize the successes they've had in resuscitating the economy since 2020. Harris should ran harder on tackling the rampant price gouging and exploitation being experienced by working class people.

Who knows, maybe Democrats will finally embrace their progressive wing and stop ignoring what people tell them they want. Doubt it though.

I reckon Biden is secretly smiling to himself. He clearly resents being pushed aside and never seemed to be trying to help Harris win. He can now say he's the only one who defeated Trump. It's well known his wife hates Harris.