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Dispute with mod

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Why should you get to challenge a person who reports you? It's just a great way to have a public fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    This seemed to be a thread where mods were inviting the suggestion of changes, just because you may have previously been a mod and understand the inner working of processes, and believe those to be transparent to you, it doesn’t mean they are transparent to all of us who have never been a mod, with respect it seems you can only see this from your own perspective.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    It doesn't matter who reported it, if anyone. It was made clear that anyone who insulted any of the moderation team would get a warning.

    The amusing part for me (and this may well earn me a warning) is seeing how the mask slipped far from that poster's usual trope of "if you get so worked up over the Internet/moderators/online arguments go our for a walk/a meal" etc, or how they were such a fan of the mods up to that point that they even volunteered to be one.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Not all reported posts are warned. Not all warned posts are reported.

    I don't know if either of the posts above that I warned were reported. Why is it relevant? They both broke a rule (the same rule) of this thread.

    There will never be a list of who reported a post or how many times a post was reported. Ever.

    End of (to borrow the phrase!)

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    But it doesn't matter if its reported or not, mods can and do action comments that haven't been reported and don't action comments that have been reported.

    A comment that breaks the rules does so whether its reported or not. And if someone reports a comment that mods decide doesn't break the rules then you challenging them on that report adds nothing to the conversation.

    It sounds like you just want to see who is reporting comments so you can argue with them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,149 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Think of the practical effects of that: people challenging each over on account of who reports who etc, etc. Whatever squabbling and bickering already bevevils boards - and there's already more than enough - that would multiply it to the point of total chaos. You would have people arguing all day every day about it - boards wouldn't be worth logging onto in that scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Or maybe it would have an alternative effect, maybe people would stop or reduce the amount of times they hit the report button if they are to be held accountable for it, maybe when everybody could see the serial offenders then it would help with moderating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Posters are repeatedly being asked by the mod teams to report comments.

    If you want to help the mods do 2 things:

    1. Report posts you think break the rules.
    2. Post within the rules.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    It's never going to happen.

    End of discussion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,149 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    If you just take this thread alone as an example - before the occasional clean up, you can often come back to it after a day away and find a huge volume of posts.

    And then to read through it is to be confronted with reams of bickering and squabbling where it can be often even just plain genuinely difficult to figure out what exactly the posters are arguing about and even harder to care.

    It's a depressing spectacle a lot of the time. And that's only when people are in disagreement about the points others are making.

    Bringing reports into it all would make it all so bitter and rancorous. It would, it's naive to think it wouldn't: people oftentimes can't help themselves.



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    End of reported posts discussion.

    It is not going to be changed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Probably not the right thread to ask so please delete if it is but whats the story with the profile pics with bars? Are they thread banned or something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,418 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    They're in prison.

    Limited posting

    Can't create new threads

    Can't report posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Why is it so easy for this to happen 4 nights a week?

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    Do Vanilla not have any simple filters they can apply to determine what are BS threads?

    And that aside, is there not still a minimum time/post count rule before starting threads?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Moderation has been a breath of fresh air the past week or so.

    Visual warnings for uncivil posters who I would always think never get actioned.

    You can see the difference with having more people to moderate CA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    While I 100% agree with not showing who reported a post, I do think showing how many times a post was reported might help encourage people to also report a post they have an issue with, rather than just start replying and pulling a thread off topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Supernintento Chalmers


    I was quite a prolific poster here back at the peak of its success. Moderator and cmod for a while as well.

    It’s sad to see it now the very odd time I visit to scan the homepage. Probably time to put it out of its misery. Announce a closing date and let folks get nostalgic for the memories and good times. The core of the site have long moved on, and there’s no one replacing them. This isn’t going to change. It’s remarkable it lasted this long to be honest.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    Warned

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    If I may make another suggestion, I think adding a bolded mod note to a warned post should be standard across the forum, for all mods.

    As a poster who tries not to get in trouble (but sometimes fails) I find it encouraging when I see someone who is obviously trolling, or baiting, or just being plain being uncivil, with a little note on their post saying "warned". Its also serves as a visual deterrent to other posters, when things are getting out of hand.

    Just that one word is enough. I don't need any more than that. I don't need to know who reported the post, or how many reported it, nor do I want to know.

    But it does make it feel like the mods are more visible, more engaged, and a little more hands on. JMHO.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    None of the posters who routinely mock Trump supporters on the Trump v Harris thread ever seem to be banned. The mod who bans the Trump supporters never replies to messages.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    That's not actually correct, I believe both Overheal, myself and others have been banned. Granted I try to remain within the rules but I've had it happen once. So it's not correct to say they don't face bans.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    This is demonstrably false, and to demonstrate it, I got a three day ban for the post below which merely criticised a sentiment…

    Every one of Newstalk's presenters air their opinions on the subject they are talking about. It's part and parcel of what drives the audience participation with the shows. Eamon Dunphy did it, George Hook did it, Brenda Power did it, Ivan Yates did it, Damien Kiberd did it, Eamon Keane did it.

    For fuck sake, even Tom Dunne and Sean Moncrieff aren't shy of giving their opinion on a matter.

    Complaining about Newstalk presenters having an opinion is just the epitome of pathetic & childish whinging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,418 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    I’d have to agree with this, even if some of the Harris supporters do get banned it seems to be the majority of Trump supporters get banned, and in a thread where the ratio is probably 10:1 Harris supporters then it seems likely there is some bias taking place. Also given the higher ratio on one side then it’s likely the report function will be used more by one side more too, imo the current report process is too heavy handed, and in the example of that particular thread it’s actually a barrier to an evenly discussed topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,418 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I know you really will have a hard time accepting this, but Trumpers have a harder time not making posts personal, stating lies as facts, and not sticking to the charter.

    I mean, I can't blame them. Look who they're following. Look at their leader. How long would Trump himself last on boards.ie?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,593 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    You just keep repeating these allegations without giving any specifics whatsoever. It's not constructive, honestly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And I'd say it's pretty likely that they're simply more prone to breaching the rules. The thread frequently has pro Trump posters arrive who seem to actively be trying to get banned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    How can I give the specifics if there is no transparency, that’s the whole point I’m making, have you just completely overlooked the context here?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,593 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No. Who are the Trump supporters, exactly? The people I suspect are Trump supporters all say that they're just moderate centrists. Can't have it both ways.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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