Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

IRA have never apologised, you said. Get shown apology:

'It's not the apology we wanted'.

Always predictable.

Here it is in full lest others be under researched too:

Full text of Irish Republican Army (IRA) statement of apology
16 April 2002

 

"Sunday 21 July marks the 30th anniversary of an IRA operation in Belfast in 1972 which resulted in nine people being killed and many more injured.

While it was not our intention to injure or kill non-combatants, the reality is that on this and on a number of other occasions, that was the consequence of our actions.

It is therefore appropriate on the anniversary of this tragic event, that we address all of the deaths and injuries of non-combatants caused by us.

We offer our sincere apologies and condolences to their families.

There have been fatalities amongst combatants on all sides. We also acknowledge the grief and pain of their relatives.

The future will not be found in denying collective failures and mistakes or closing minds and hearts to the plight of those who have been hurt. That includes all of the victims of the conflict, combatants and non-combatants.

It will not be achieved by creating a hierarchy of victims in which some are deemed more or less worthy than others.

The process of conflict resolution requires the equal acknowledgement of the grief and loss of others. On this anniversary, we are endeavouring to fulfil this responsibility to those we have hurt.

The IRA is committed unequivocally to the search for freedom, justice and peace in Ireland.

We remain totally committed to the peace process and to dealing with the challenges and difficulties which this presents. This includes the acceptance of past mistakes and of the hurt and pain we have caused to others."

,I’ll bet he’s a better Republican after 40 years in SF and having actually lived through the time of the troubles than some of the young pups not there a wet week that wanted him out ?

Look if you think asking people for cuddles while in your boxer shorts is acceptable behaviour in a professional environment then that's fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree on that though.

Just taking Ireland as an example, what group have ever denounced what they did? Give us an example.
Re: Children, which bit of

While it was not our intention to injure or kill non-combatants, the reality is that on this and on a number of other occasions, that was the consequence of our actions.

It is therefore appropriate on the anniversary of this tragic event, that we address all of the deaths and injuries of non-combatants caused by us.

is causing you issues?
Re:

Whats's your opinion on the amount of innocent children they killed?

Are you willing to denounce the acts of SF/IRA?

I never supported the IRA and I have denounced ALL of the violence from the start and those who abdicated their responsibilities to allow the circumstances for it to begin.

The excitement over a 60 something year old actor living in LA saying he likes Eoin O Broin is very cute.

This mistakes general populism to appealing to a base.

Would you say the Greens are populist?

Could have fooled me ……

Another Saturday night meltdown from Shinners online over opinion polls.

Apologies if this has been covered, I'm not reading 207 pages. But possibly they could start by being knowledgeable and not so, dare I say it, bigoted.

Usually we just get leaflets through our door but the SF man actually rang the bell this afternoon, I was slightly bored so I spoke to him.

I told him I had no preference and may just not vote. I asked him to give me his elevator pitch, why should I vote for SF.

He was talking about housing but couldn't really say anything other then they'll ensure there is affordable housing. I asked him how and he skipped to immigration. He then went on to tell me how sad it is that there are places around the world in hardship, but Ireland shouldn't accept any of them in.

I asked him how SF was different to any other party and he struggled to say anything other than the rest are running the county into the ground.

I told him I thought my accent (I'm English) was the wrong accent for SF, before he answered he asked me how long I'd been here, I said ten years and then he told me how SF don't hate the English, just the English government and monarchy.

He said we'd have a problem if I was conservative or a monarchist , I said no and he said I'm fine then. It did made me wonder what would have happened if I said yes.

He then went on a bit of a diatribe about how the English system doesn't teach real history about the empire. All the time I was thinking how odd this was.

He then went back to saying about how I'd be able to live in Dublin if they were in government, asked me to vote as every vote counts and cheerfully went on his way.

The only thing I took from that is that they either have no policies, or he wasn't aware of them and his odd way of trying to get me to vote, by putting my home nation down. I'm not saying the British should be proud of our history, but it's an odd way to get me on board.

Are they all like this, or was this chap the exception? I certainly won't be voting for SF though after it.

’No standing in ‘a criminal case’.
A political party can have rules and penalise if they are broken.
But you know this I suspect.

Incredible that people here are openly admitting they don't want a United Ireland if it'll cost them a few bob.

Shameful and embarrassing that any Irish person would think like that

I wonder have the Tories considered setting up an Irish wing, they'd get a lot of support here based on the embarrassing views of 'Irish' people here.

On your last point where you put irish on quotation marks. Is it your view that a unionist isn't irish so? Or somebody do might be for the Republic to stay as 26 counties? Or even somebody who might want NI to go alone?

All still irish to me, regardless of their politics...