Dispute with mod

You're new here, hang around a bit and you'll see why the query provoked that response.

Then you know the answer already.

Would you let Angel Eyes speak for themselves perhaps. More derailing and bickering back and forth saying nothing new. Did you not learn from the Mod's tidy up of the thread? Guess what posts were wiped!

There was a dispute resolution thread running that might have forced boards to acknowledge the edge cases of intersex athletes at least, but as that was only a thread ban and they are no longer an issue its been swept back under the carpet, for now.

Can we make the below that are used to gaslight threads as actionable by Mods.

I am sure their others that can be added, I probably have broke some myself in the past.

A consolidated list will help improve posting styles including my own.

This thread is full of racists

This thread is full of Nazis

This thread is full of Transphobia

This thread is full of homophobia

This thread is full of the far right

This thread is full of middle aged angry men

Apologies I will edit that now.

I think that anyone who has spent time in the threads where such comments are used, or in other threads on fairly evocative topics, will have seen similar comments referring to Wokists, SJW, Leftists, Liberals etc etc etc.

A lot of the terms have been used directly at or about me. I've had PM's using them to describe me. I've never reported such a PM and I've never lost a wink of sleep over being called something because someone is attempting to denigrate or undermine my beliefs.

I do understand that it is frustrating to see threads full of the accusations of these things so I don't do that either. But I will call out behaviour that is reflective of these practices for what it is, but I've done this directly only a handful of times in my time here and I've been here a while.

Turn off safe search on Twitter and enter some slur words and just watch the flood of information that will be presented to you since the new owner decided that particular types of free speech are more important than others. I had a video presented to me on Tik Tok of an AI image of a young lady holding a black baby which appeared to be hers. The girl was crying and 3 white men around her were laughing extravagantly and point their fingers at her. The caption read, 'In 2024 is once again acceptable to do this!!!' I reported the post and they account and received an update saying it did not violate the terms of the app. Sunday night, unsearched for, I was shown a video on Twitter of people in America on various boats in some sort of a parade. They had Nazi Flags, and Trump flags on the same boats. The audio on the video had people calling from boat to boat saying. 'No more N words in America'. That is happening in public, in 2024.

We are living in a world with growing sentiment along these lines. That is a plain and simple fact. In the US, the ongoing Presidential election is incredibly revealing for some of the sentiments that are personally held by people involved in it and last Sundays rally will be analysed for decades for the rhetoric that was used. One speaker, specifically, themselves said that 'it was said to them after coming back from Israel (and seeing Bibi) that they couldn't take the Nazi gig, but they took it' They said that, they implied the gig was Nazi in at least tone and they didn't counter that point, they enforced that they attended despite that being the case. In the UK, the ongoing Conservative leadership contest is being fought between two people who have taken several strong steps to the right not to mention the increase in sentiment around the Reform party and the impact that led to in recent riots. In Ireland, we've our mini-me versions of right wing agitators using language and symbols associated with 1930's Germany. Again, that is a fact.

So if these sentiments exist in society, if they appear to be growing in their expressions, how likely is it that this wouldn't be reflected in Boards content, if not directly, then indirectly? And if this were to be the case, should it not, or can it not be highlighted? I would have a big problem if that were the case, and I say that without suggesting it is a frequent or widely held belief or tone on here, but I do feel it does exist, and is present at times.

I absolutely agree that these terms shouldn't be thrown around lightly, but am completely against the terms being seen as solely gaslighting and actionable by mods as a flat out approach.

The question about trans people last night engendered the response it did because at this point, it is 'usually' a loaded question. There are vastly more appropriate locations that exist online to inform someone seeking to be informed than either asking anonymous individuals to give their description or to goad a representative of the site in to doing so, probably, I expect, so that that response could then be used to justify future comments in a kind of 'gotcha' type moment.

And frequently we see people adopt a 'hey I'm just asking a question' attitude when they know they have thrown a grenade in to a room. And occasionally there will be innocent/genuine questions about contentious topics, but usually if that is the case and someone sees an evocative response, they'll back away and do research elsewhere. What we saw last night was an attempt to provoke a particular type of conversation which has been held time and again on here and always with the same pattern, response and outcome. Hence the immediate response to the question.

TLDR: What happens if we ban calling people Nazi's/racists/homophobes/transphobes and a Nazi/racist/homophobe/transphobe comes in to a thread look to spread their ideology?

Their is a lot here and I am just heading back from lunch.

Like I said their are more than i listed that should be considered.

On your last point I would report the posts and if someone was really out of order then I would suggest sending a pm to a mod.

Is calling someone a Nazi/racist etc silencing them?

Note, my post was responding to someone calling for the action by mods with respect to various statements, is that not a direct suggestion at silencing someone?

Boil that down though. Would we not have to allow people be to outwardly homophobic, for example? If they truly believe that homosexual relationships are against/God/Allah/Nature/Whatever-you're-having-yourself, shouldn't they be allowed say that? The argument for allowing such homophobia would be that their argument could be countered against, but apparently the homophobes would not have a duty to respond.

I think boards needs to get off the fence on a lot of these issues. I want to believe I know where boards.ie as a discussion forum stands on issues, but since the takeover, I'm no longer sure. There are definitely posters who have been around a long time, that wouldn't have lasted a wet week in the mid 2000's.

I keep banging my head off the wall with this, but I would love to know what the plans are for boards. Are there any?