Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

@GrasstoMilk went at the concreting today with your former neighbours/my relations. Didn't contact any of the contacts you gave me after. I was trying to get one man semi lined up and then they replied they had a fortnight or three weeks work lined up which would be too long. Another who worked here is only getting to a neighbour in January. So I asked my relations and they obliged. Had one on the loader and one on the ground with a another person and me pushing concrete around. Bought a secondhand power screed and it's brilliant for the job. Doing more tomorrow. With all the people today and the tools used it worked very well.

Then tonight I was getting the end of the concrete on the cow road ready for a few metres just in case. And the calves in the adjacent paddock went stupid with the lights of the tractor doing laps and two broke out and into a former paddock where they'll stay till morning. May finish the prep on the cow road in morning too. With much quieter calves hopefully.

Christ…the imaginations and idea formations from a waft of inaccurate commentary have yer minds driven demented. Even the fact that the EPA didn't bring up farming on a radio interview this morning is seen as a conspiracy...We've got to the pont now that whatever anyone says, does or thinks, it's a conspiracy and the world and it's mother hate us want to see the end of farmers.

Some here badly need to go outside the forum to get a better balance to form opinion. The world's not as bad as portrayed here…and the accuracy of some of the info is appalling.

You're spot on...the vast majority have a really good positive view of farmers and they spot the ulterior motive behind the Gibbons and crew, straight off.

A search for Uisce Eireann sewage spill will.turn up hundreds of newspaper articles over the past few years, and dozens of prosecutions…It's all out there, it's not silent, but we're narrow in what we see, compounded by the way news and opinion is targeted towards us every day.

We are hit unfairly on 2 fronts, which manifests in all sorts of conspiracyconsiderations that lead far deeper than anywhere we need to go with them..

1. When a company pollutes water, the company is prosecuted, the directors bear no responsibility. When a farm pollutes, the director or farmer is personally prosecuted..

We will never accept that everyone is ever playing their part, when we're the only ones personally liable in a situtation.

2. Obvious unfair appraisal of carbon emissions.

No allowance for CO2 removals required for plant growth, (grass 45% Carbon) but SOME of the subsequent emission of that Carbon by the cow is counted. (Respiration, which is far higher than methane emissions, is not counted)

If the crop was put through a digestor or made into a fuel to burn in a car or an aeroplane, the subsequent Carbon emission is not counted. Not only is it not counted, it is claimed as a Carbon reduction in the fuel it is offsetting. That's a huge anomaly.

The way the allocation of emmissions at the point of production or consumption has been done is twisted and corrupt. (This applies even tonthe lime mentioned previously...the emissions from lime are at production level)

Soil sequestration however is attributed to farming, (unlike what has been said previously). It is taken into account in the LULUCF inventory, expected to join to agriculture inventory when in positive figures, planning in aiding agriculture's net position. (Forestry a real problem here though...it's a chit show)

@siamsa, the messaging from this forum has become reflective of a grouping who are now living every day with the notion that the world is chasing us down with extention in mind. It's not, and the only loosers when this narrative is in play are those carrying the worries in their heads

Inmacurate farming rant has exploded..I see a tic toc hero on this morning about EPA not having a clue what they're talking about declaring agri emissions were down last spring, in what was the most diabolical inaccurate rant I've ever seen....no gain, but disservice to all.

You don't see headlines that agriculture are responsible for the majority of fish kills. You see it for sewage, like Ennistymon and Water treatment like Freemount.

Read it Straight..…fish Kills…

I'd have to disagree on that. Any incident involving agri related fish kills whether nutrient run off or pesticide mis-use is well highlighted by the media and used to feed a narrative. If people only knew the extent of overflows from pumpstations and treatment plants from combined networks. That been said the level of upgrades needed won't be done in the next 100years and cost alot more.

I wouldn't claim to know alot but when you look at the bigger picture and see which industry is targeted more its hard not to deny it. Oil is going nowhere, we rely on its byproduct to much. The green transition is only making a few wealthy, infrastructure is not their and is unreliable. Everyone pays carbon tax and very few see any benefit from it. Media stays quiet on alot of those questions

AFAIK it was only 2 weeks ago that the EPA mentioned Irish Water on raw sewerage discharges from towns and villages for the first time. Prior to that it was all about agriculture.

100%

Does anyone know what percentage of sewerage treatment works are actually designed to discharge directly during storm events as they are unable to handle the inflow volume??

Well seeing as the majority of river pass through farmland more than tow etc id say them boys wud want to ask how 50percent could be caused elsewhere

All sewage treatment plants are designed to discharge storm water when capacity is reached.