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Dispute with mod

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,410 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    IMHO, mods should be paid employees, not posters and definitely not actively posting on threads they also moderate.

    I always assumed Beasty was being remunerated or gaining something for his work.

    I'd be shocked if that wasn't the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I'm sure I read Beasty say before that if he was looking to get paid, Boards couldn't afford him. And that was probably before the current state of affairs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I feel that question should be asked of the site owner, rather than someone who is just a regular poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Why do the mods not get remunerated?

    Does their service have no value?

    How many regular users are their on boards?

    Would they be happy to pay a little for its upkeep or do they not really value the forum and see it as a public convenience(even those are paid for by one way or another)



  • Posts: 133 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The elusive @odhran .

    He's like one of those absentee landlords of famine days who gets his agents to do the dirty work and they get lynched for doing it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Heraclius


    The radio forum seems to be one of the strangest forums. So many people there who seem to listen to things they hate deliberately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ...looking for an echo chamber...

    Maybe not looking for an echo chamber, just a chamber where every response isn't just: "but, rape"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭reclose


    The mods should definitely be getting paid. I don’t know anyone who’d want to do such a role for free. There’s no upside to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    I have no complaints about the mods, in fact the very few dealings I've had with them have been grand.

    What I am more concerned about is the potential damage that the use of chat gpt could do to the site. I think it's vital that mods learn how to spot it and I think it should be added to the rules explicitly that it is not allowed to be used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,829 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Nope ..link dumping 😉

    (Just to clarify this is an attempt also at humour , not back seat moderation ..I was warned for similar before even with obvious emoji !)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I see we have another Trump thread. In a completely unrelated section on a forum on a different continent. The internet is great. :/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭con747


    I know I'd be willing to pay a sub to use the site and most members would as well I hope so why can't that be done to help pay Mods and Admin and help develop the site @Boards.ie: Odhran @Boards.ie: Mike

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It might be worth a separate thread in time if it becomes an issue- the limited encounters I’ve had tend to be new users starting a new thread and pasting a load of semi intelligent sounding waffle on a topic- so not particularly clever although I did see one poster well over a year ago hold a reasonably sounding discussion over a couple of pages but again it was quickly determined they were just cutting and pasting - I don’t tend to read long drawn out posts anyway unless it’s a topic Ive great interest in so it rarely impacts me - regular posters who want to continue to use the site just wouldn’t be bothered to do it



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    it’s easy to hurl from the ditch and not suggest solutions.

    Boards has run for nearly 30 years on volunteers. It used to be the strength of the site. Now the critics vastly outnumber the volunteers so it’s falling to pieces.

    People use it for free, don’t volunteer to help and then complain when things aren’t going well. Maybe the model just doesn’t work anymore.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think the real problem is that a lot, possibly most of the central core of good, sensible posters was lost after the rework. It was dwindling anyway but the move to Vanilla just catalysed it. Now we have a smaller middle, fewer mods and, proportionally a lot more angry people who've no interest in anything but their grievances.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭horse7


    What I have found that mods can post (eg Gumbo) and when reported for a reason Beasty then starts warnings because you can't argue with a mod. Mods should only be able to sign in as such when they are moderating, when they post as we do they should not be posting in their mod name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I've made plenty of suggestions, on this and the other feedback threads. I'd volunteer to help mod only (a) it wouldn't be accepted and (b) I know I wouldn't have time to commit to it properly while working full time. Maybe when I retire, if the site is still here.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    every mod I know also works full time.

    At the height of the fitness forum there were 5 of us and we shared the load throughout the day. It was easy that way.

    Now there’s so little traffic I can do it all alone, while working full time.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Wasn't there a fight club of some sorts before, a hidden forum. Maybe something like that where the mods can just throw in people until they sort out their differences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed, definitely felt a drop in activity on the site around the end of 2023 and accelerated this year. I'd say there are a couple of factors, but the main one has to be the rework. It's become a more clunky and buggy user experience with lost functionality (multi-quote, etc). With that loss of audience it can only demoralise mods who were already stretched.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,413 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I was a mod here for about 20 years.

    I stepped down as I hated that I perceived boards as moving away from the inclusive place it was, and started allowing a lot more anti this, anti that and anti the other speech.

    There's no way the site would have allowed such an anti-trans, anti-traveller, anti-immigrant sentiment to fester back in the days of the original 3 admin.

    This was on top of a pretty disastrous move to vanilla.

    I no longer wanted to be associated with it, or give up my time to it as it had stopped representing what I believe, and so I left and closed down that account.

    When I was a mod, there was real life benefits to modding. There was a lovely collection of people, who met up semi-regularly for mod beers, Santa strike Force nights etc. There was also a, dare I say it, a core set of values which was founded on inclusivity. (Yes, boards was "woke" before woke was a thing)

    I don't see any benefits to modding these days. I don't even know what the mission statement of boards is anymore.

    I'd love if another boards census was carried out and one of the questions was just for the mods, "Why do you moderate boards.ie?"

    As for the volunteer to help, I only volunteered once I had been made a mod, as the "X thread needs a mod" thread was on the moderators forum.

    To me, it would make sense to put up wanted ads on the forums with either not enough or no mods, PM an account called "mods wanted" that cmods and admin have access to (so their own accounts dont get clogged up with PM's). Then the admin and co-mods could choose who mods based on their history.

    Everyone given a trial for a few weeks, and if it works out, great, if not, at least you tried.

    Saying all that, it would help if people knew what the site they were volunteering for stood for and believed in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    You learn a lot about a place based on how they treat their worst, Prison & Thunderdome were an embarrassment to the site and should have never have been kept on once the site grew to more than a couple of hundred members.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I completely agree with you. I was never part of the social side of modding, but it was nice to know it was going on. Boards has definitely lost its identity, it happened slowly but it’s become a place where lunatics go to rant.

    I know why I still mod, stubbornness. I put too much work into the forum to give up.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,101 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Disagree wholeheartedly. Prison was a hilarious read. Not sure I ever posted in the thunderdome either but it was… interesting… nonetheless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,829 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    In fairness as regards this " volunteering " situation ..I am sure I am not alone in believing from past feedback that posters are invited to be mods ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,413 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    It used to be that there was a thread on the mods forum called "X thread needs a mod" or something like that. There, mods could let people know they're feeling a bit pressured, a big event (like an election was coming up!) or IRL stuff was coming up and they might need a temporary or permanent hand.

    Other mods then could volunteer to help out if it was something that would interest them. Sometimes mods would nominate regular posters on their forum to become mods, and after cmods did the due diligence, they were reached out to and if interested, made mod.

    I'm thinking out loud here, but I wonder is there a fear from Admin about making people mods? Like they might get it wrong? It's weird that there's no reach out at all for new mods. I can't remember the last sticky I saw that said, "Welcome your new mod, "X".

    I also think the bar of what's needed for a mod may have been raised far too high in this crazy partisan times we live in. Like I said, I was a mod here for 20 years, I don't think I'd be offered the job again though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is prison gone, now you just get shiny bars like I have for a few days, It was a very funnny read. Maybe a political prisoners thread and from reading above a radio presenter one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,101 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I don't think it's gone, but you can no longer read it unless you're banned to there. Thankfully I'm not banned, I keep my nose clean these days. Not sure I ever had a siteban but I did have a fair few forum (non perma)bans back in the day. Boards is dying and I'm going to be around as long as possible, it's an important part of my workday and work process.



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