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Dispute with mod

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They don't. Repeating the same victimhood narrative with zero effort does not make it any more true. I've no idea what Beasty's political views are. Ditto for Ten of Swords. I wear my own on my sleeve of course but I do not moderate CA.

    And yeah, this is a horrific place for a trans person to be. If I were trans, I'd have GDPR'd my account a long time ago.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What's the privacy policy about giving posters a copy of information about that poster in restricted areas such as the private forums mentioned above please?



  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I'd disagree, I'm sure either side feels the same, probably all evens out.

    I didn't realise that about the trans thing, don't know when I looked over in that forum, it's certainly a few years ago and they seemed ok. I do remember posting about that Canadian person who's still grabbing headlines but there on the extreme end of the wedge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    It wasn't all sweetness and light back in the day either, I remember one trans poster used to get dogs abuse and get ripped the piss out of on these forums, maybe that's because they were just an angry poster but I'm sure there was plenty that would have been transphobic also



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    All users have a right to access personal data, as confirmed in the Boards.ie privacy policy, which says;

    7.1 We shall vindicate all your rights under Data Protection Law. These rights are as follows:

    your right to withdraw your consent to the processing of Personal Data at any time

    your right to request from us access to personal data and to have any incorrect personal data rectified

    I'm asking if the data referred to in the post that I quoted is provided to users when they request access to their personal data. Specifically, this would include;

    • Access to reported posts (which of my posts have been reported, and what was the basis for such reports)
    • Access to private forums where they can discuss issues with their co-moderators. (what discussions have been had about me in private forums)
    • Access to admins who can confirm if someone is a rereg. (what data is being held about my previous registrations that can be used to conclude if I am a rereg)
    • The ability to warn, ban, forum ban or site ban any user they like. (records of any warnings, bannings, forum bannings or site bannings)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Ah now, what people say about you behind your back is none of your business.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I think he means loopholing EU privacy laws to read eg. Reported posts tickets. Silly. You don’t even get that from Facebook.

    Other thank that the site only stores what you post, and functional things like your login info (which nobody can effectively see and passwords are encrypted/hashed whatever) the system logs IP addresses which are masked. Etc.



  • Posts: 133 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bboc clearly said people were picked based on their activity on a forum .

    I've been on boards 15+ years with nearly 20k posts with a relatively clean slate and have never even been approached to mod.

    Yet I've seen mods on what we're once great fora to be in who have destroyed it. Case in point "Christianity" had a great mod at one stage. He left and 2 avowed atheists became mods. Lots of good posters who joined the forum were railroaded out and gave up. It's now an echo chamber for atheist's to ridicule Christianity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I don’t think that data is “personal” data. Google AI correct if wrong:

    The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) defines personal data as any information that can be used to identify a living person, including:

    • Name 
    • Email address 
    • Home address 
    • Identification number 
    • IP address 
    • Cookies 
    • Location data 

    “Content generated by the data subject” at best would be your posts you make not posts made about you.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    You can if you will but all I ever need do is to look at the refugee thread or any trans thread to see the colossal amount of hate some people have filled themselves with. We're all free to believe what we want but all anyone who wants to know whether you or I are wrong need do is look at those threads.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I've to ask because I've seen a few terms change recently across other media, X etc. Can someone load the site into a learning machine to create a model. As I'm writing I suppose you can do it anyway without any permission. No GDPR issue i'd assume. Owners permission possibly.

    Would be gas to ask our combined brains questions...



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    @AndrewJRenko you can request what personally identifiable information Boards.ie has on you by emailing datarequests@boards.ie or sending a PM to @Boards.ie: GDPR .

    If you would like all your identifiable information removed please send a request to close and anonymise your account.

    Mike in the office is the only one who can handle this request for you.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,019 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I think you're confused.

    Mods cannot see any personal data about you.

    The only difference is mods can see infraction history for all users, rather than just themselves.

    If you think comments made about you in other forums constitutes private data then again, I think you're just confused.

    Either way, you're not dragging this thread down one of your rabbit holes. The above answers your question, and now we move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭The_Macho_Man


    The hatred towards trans people on here would make Graham Linehan blush (not really but you know).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    GDPR doesn't exist to give you insight into peoples private opinions of you.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    We have a refugee thread, I'm not even going to look. I nod and smile when I pass them like everyone else I make eye contact with, the odd time it seems to make their day like the chap carrying a few things out of Lidl last night with tears in his eyes. Humanity restored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Christ, just looked at the front page, if a little help is required trolling or banning new reg spammers i'd be willing to help out. It would have to be a Flexi contact, if I'm here I'll do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It does, if those private opinions are recorded in a database, or indeed, written down.

    If there is an entry on a database that indicates that one of my posts has been reported, and a reason given for that reporting, that entry is my personal data, in the same way that my post is my personal data.

    ________________________________

    Warned: ignored Admin instruction

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    The warnings/bans do seem a little biased,

    They don't.

    They can. If one side is more inclined to report the slightest thing, and mods only react to reported posts, it can give the perception of bias.

    I was banned for a post in a string of four or five posts that could have been actioned if mine was over the line. Why was I singled out? I'm guessing because mine was the only post reported.

    I didn't report any post because none needed to be reported, mine didn't need to be reported



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭The_Macho_Man


    Reported posts are not personal data unless they identify you in some way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I suppose if Andrew J Renko is your real name it may complicate things, I don't think the vast majority of users here would be entitled to that information though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    you misunderstand what personal data is.

    If two users for instance privately PM each other opinions about you that’s not your private data.

    Reported posts don’t have any of your PPI on them. Your username etc. is not PPI. Boards doesn’t store or ask for legal names.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Reported posts have the same personal information about me as any other post. If a post is 'my post' for GDPR purposes, then I'm entitled to all information about that post - the content of that post, the date/time of that post, the 'reported Y/N' status of the post, and the reasons for reporting the post.

    _____________________________

    Warned: Repeatedly ignoring Admin instruction

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭The_Macho_Man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No.

    The Right To Be Forgotten in the GPDR hasn’t worked like that either. You’ll notice when a user closes their account via a GPDR request they become [Deleted User] but the posts they wrote, remain.

    Retaining the content of the posts doesn’t violate the GPDR and subsequently it’s not a violation of GPDR that you don’t have access to certain things like eg. Report tickets for your posts, or access to PMs between users discussing you or your posts or their contents.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    That’s sad to hear.


    However, I remember being harangued when in the Christianity forum for simply asking a question once. “This is the Christianity forum, you’re not welcome here” was the tone. So maybe it wasn’t as harmonious as you think.

    Either situation isn’t ok though. All mods should have an active interest in the subjects being discussed….. UNLESS it’s Current Affairs. That place needs a full time referee not a mod.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    You have been given an answer and told to drop this. A reported post contains NO personally identifying information about you. None. Nobody can tell who you are, where you live, anything about you. Unless you have used your real name and photo. Have you?

    If you would like to submit a data request then please do so as per the instructions above.

    If you want Boards.ie to wipe all your data, please submit a request via the channels outlined above.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    that’s not how moderation works. Most reported posts aren’t ever actioned. I get great fun out of seeing my posts reported when I am simply disagreeing with someone who doesn’t like what I have to say.

    When a post is reported, the mod reads the entire interaction and decides who’s acting the eejit. Then dings the eejit or decides they’re all eejits or does nothing.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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