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Dispute with mod

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I also wondered why my post earned a ban, but I have found that it is not worth asking the mods to clarify decisions like that, so I didn't bother pursuing it.



  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What did that member say to prompt the above? And where do those, who are intent on being a dick/troll but have the approved views/keep trying to ingratiate themselves with the mods (sincerely or otherwise) fit in?

    There was a time when people, who were always complaining about the mods, were just sore because they couldn't get away with behaving as though Boards was 4Chan. It's not just those now though - I try to be polite, respectful, balanced, I don't troll... I try to make a decent contribution basically, yet I can see that there's, at times, pettiness and bias/inconsistency (e.g. "uncivil" seems to depend on the member).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Deregos.


    I never received an answer of any description from Ten of Swords on my criticism of this thread that he started. It speaks loads about the way Boards is being moderated and perpetuating a specific agenda that they're promoting.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    Class from a moderator, we can clearly see what standards and attitudes towards posters are like from this post. It proves everything that's being said. The editing of ordinary non abusive posts is plain and simple censorship.

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    Warned: Trolling moderators. As you have done on every post you make in these threads.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,261 ✭✭✭con747


    Last week I noticed a couple of zombie threads 4 and 6 years old posted in by the same poster in the same forum so I tagged them telling them they were posting in zombie threads. I looked back a few days later and noticed my post was edited by a Mod and my post was wiped and a "Don't backseat moderate. It might be with good intentions, but it might put off the poster. If it becomes a problem, I'll sort it." in it's place. No letting me know it was done. I PM'd the Mod 4 day's ago asking would it not be courteous to have let me know the post was edited and why with no reply. I will PM again before asking the next in command why it was edited.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,585 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I would agree with all of this. I did mod the old Politics Café very briefly but then it was shut down and rebranded as Current Affairs. I don't remember much but I've seen enough from other PC mods to know that you're absolutely right. Modding Politics was quite stressful at times but I felt like it was important that there was a part of the internet where people had to actually put in an effort instead of crapping out links and memes for likes.

    Since then, I think things have gotten worse. Back in the day, a complaint for one of my mod actions would have been that I'm inconsistent, too harsh or stifling discussion. Now, everything's a conspiracy due to "bias". Nobody can say how but it's just so tedious and lazy that people go to that one word for literally anything they don't like.

    I've had run ins with Beasty as well. I called Trump a rapist in the thread before the title was edited and got a warning. I've gotten warnings for posts months old as well. It is what it is. I'll try and be more careful but I've much more important things to be doing that stressing over this place.

    I'm not a fan of the CA forum. There was a time when users did give valid feedback but that happens much less now. I won't be volunteering to mod it. It's not worth the soul destroying misery.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    To be fair the rapey language is uncalled for, he doesn't have a criminal conviction and she's an absolute header who even said rape doesn't need to be physical. The grab her by the pussy gets thrown out a lot but none us would be here if our dads didn't take the initiative, he just said the quite part out loud.

    How a link dump is considered a link dump I'm still unsure of when it relates to your post, if you said something without a link you're accused of being a liar, post the relative link and you're dumping. Doesn't make sense.

    I'm assuming Beasty doesn't have time to be reading over everything looking for context before throwing out some warnings, sees a linky and just hops off it. Not something I'm going to lose any sleep over, bother complaining about or battling him over.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I hate the “inconsistency” defence. “If you’re not on the left the mods hate you”, while posters insult everyone around them and generally act like big kids.

    I see no problem with consistency. I see other problems I prefer not to go in to.

    they/them/theirs


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    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,397 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I think this post is exactly why it's important to have the ability to point out that Trump is a rapist and a sexual assaulter and that sexual assault ≠ anything remotely consensual, otherwise it risks becoming normalised.

    The grab her by the pussy gets thrown out a lot but none us would be here if our dads didn't take the initiative, he just said the quite part out loud.

    I hope most decent people would be offended here by this poster who is either claiming we are all offspring of sexual assault or that sexual assault is the same as consensual sex.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    ghbtp is not condoning sexual assault or anything of the sort, between consenting adults it's normal, not sure why you're twisting it into something it's not, pretty much proving my point. Decent people, give over and stop being offended by reality.



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  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    An example is when someone is carded for being uncivil (like the OP - and it was so mild that it's incredible they were carded) and others - with the right views - get to be uncivil all the time with impunity. Pity we can't give names.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,397 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    "Grab her by the pussy" is not condoning sexual assault?

    Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.

    And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

    Bush: Whatever you want.

    Trump: Grab them by the p****. You can do anything.

    That honestly sounds consensual to you?

    And if you think that's normal talk for men to have, I can guarantee I have not, nor any of my friends talked like that about women.

    Actually, scratch that. Maybe when we were 15 and didn't know any better, but certainly not as mature adults.

    The fact you think this dialogue is somehow normal behaviour and that they're not talking about non consensual sexual assault is repulsive and a very good reason why posters should be allowed bring up the fact that Trump a rapist on thread.

    By censoring it, it is now becoming provable that it is normalising sexual assault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's locker room talk between 2 people. I'm not offended by it but I grew in an time where Eddie Murphy and the Diceman were doing the rounds, you know right well that conversation was not meant for public consumption. Men do talk about women and visa versa.



  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Men do talk about women" - in terms of grabbing them by the vagina? God I hate when there are attempts to normalise sexual assault talk.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Could mods also maybe explain the logic for why it is a bannable offense to mention that Trump is a racist/rapist but accusing people of having "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is acceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Nobody cares if you're offended by it, that's not the point.

    'Locker room' talk as you put it, is unguarded talk between people. A true insight into what goes on in their mind. What we all saw there was unfiltered Donald Trump.

    I personally don't talk to my friends in the locker room about grabbing women like that and I'd be quite taken aback if one of my friends came out with it.

    Again, it's not anyone being 'offended', it's more 'wow, I didn't realise you were a letch'.

    Donald Trump is clearly a letch at the very least, but probably a lot lot worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Consenting adults can do what they want and talk about what they want. We've all probably had conversations that were never meant to be repeated and weren't. What 2 people talk about in private should have remained private. I don't believe he was encouraging a sexual assault. It's a turn of phrase, like grab him by the balls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    The people who keep repeating it want you to be offended they do care and are upset if you're not, it's quite obivious 74 million odd people weren't offended enough to not vote for him the last time, now there either all happy to vote for somone who encouraged somone to commit a sexual assult or there's something more nuanced at play from the people who keep saying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,402 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I don't believe he was encouraging a sexual assault

    No he was pretty much describing how he actually sexual assaults.

    Whether you think he is entitled to do that or not has very little to do with Help Desk thread and only usher it's closure much faster I assume.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,397 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    True. I am hoping though the admin can see this as an extremely good reason to reverse the decision to ban calling Trump a rapist on that thread though, as they can clearly see now the real world connotations of banning it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,545 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep and banning discussing it adds credibility to the claim there's no foundation to the rape. A jury has found otherwise and it's very off that it's been made off limits...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    In the interest of feedback (which is meant to be constructive, and not a criticism of the mods) a better way of delivering mod instructions on thread needs to be found.

    When the mods themselves acknowledge they don't read entire threads, and don't have time to, it's unreasonable to expect that posters have done so, on the off-chance that there was a mod instruction somewhere earlier in the thread that they might have missed.

    If all mod instructions on thread were copied and pasted as bullet points to the first post (with post number), then posters should / would get into the habit of checking the first post regularly for any updated mod instructions and it might prevent some falling foul of them and getting warnings / bans for instructions they weren't aware of.

    There is no point telling someone "I issued a mod instruction on post xxxx" when the reader may only be new to a thread and joining 100 posts later, and never saw it.

    JMHO.

    (edit for clarity) I am referring to mod instructions or directions which apply to every poster on the thread, not those aimed at individuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    74 million of what, 341 million? that's only 21%.

    1 in every 5 people or thereabouts.

    If you break down IQ test scores in the US to a '1 in 5' figure you could probably explain that away fairly easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,402 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I agree with you.

    I got banned for calling Trump 'Artificially Tanned'.

    I'm no lawyer but if that ever reached liable court I reckon I would have a chance of winning the case. 😂

    My point though is if posters keeping going at each other, it will be deemed more than enough to close down the thread.

    A thread which I believe is highlighting some issues and is important in that regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Honestly, the laughing I'd get out of being banned for calling Trump 'artificially tanned' would far exceed the actual negatives of the ban. 😁



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,585 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's a country where the first response to school shootings is to immediately kill any discussion of why it happened, child beauty pageants are legal and food additives banned in Russia, India and China are used routinely. I won't even start on the undemocratic politics or lobbying.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,585 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    My rule back in the day was that if I was getting flak from all sides, I was doing at least a passable job.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It was a civil case with no evidence except from the accuser and no reported crime. It's the correct decision to not allow it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    There has to be a funny line somewhere, that would definitely fall on the funny side.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    hard work != good work, you cant and shouldnt equate the two.



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