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Dispute with mod

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I don't think a one word reply is discussion tbh...

    Or maybe, in context, it is



  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Re: reprimanding for a photo or link in the middle of a thread - if they're so busy, how do they have time to make and enforce the pettiest of rules?

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Are you referring to the nil point warning I issued to you asking you to read the warnings in the OP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    What's the point of a nil point warning?

    What's the difference between a nil point warning and a PM?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    100% agree with this there are many smaller forums as well that are just echo chambers for the mods views and if you don’t fit with those views they find ways to give warnings etc. To be honest there is no point of appealing anymore on Boards for warnings as there is no chance of winning. The small number of Mods and admins left on the site just to back each other. Boards is in the most part now just an echo chamber of the mods and admins views and pretty much a closed shop to other opinions.

    Regards,

    P.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Nil point warnings eventually rack up to pointed warnings. I'm not sure how that works with the new system in place in CA. I guess it's also less effort to issue a warning than send a PM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I suspect as much.

    Funny to hear Admin and Mods describe them as some sort of frivolity that doesn't matter.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Perhaps you should read the new rules sticky. It's set out there.

    If someone gets a nil point warning informing them their post is considered a link dump and asking them to read the OP there is every chance that if they do it again it will not be a nil pointer

    And yes we could PM a user. But a nil point warning allows us to attach the post



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Would you care to mention any of these "many smaller forums" so we are aware?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Green Peter




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  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think Boards is a great site - it'd be missed if gone. I left and came back. But those who say there can be pettiness and inconsistency in moderation can't ALL be wrong. It's no longer just extremists saying that - it's perfectly level-headed, balanced members now too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,526 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Well, your contribution to the first page of this thread included a number of posts that most people would consider abusive, I reported them as I'm sure others did yet you weren't punished for them (someone else had their post edited with a warning notification for having a go at you so moderation was/is taking place on this thread).

    You behave in this way regularly, yet you aren't punished, you disagree that there's any editorialising taking place on boards yet you get to be a dick to people all the time and never get punished for it and you have the neck to question how much tolerance there should be for "problem users" when you can't be bothered to regulate your own behaviour.

    In answer to your question, nobody should get to be a "problem user", rules need to be applied evenly and fairly across the board and before you say that is the case, we all know that it isn't and that's why there's so much disquiet on this site.

    Post edited by nullzero on

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah most likely.

    OK as someone who has had bans infractions and warnings over the last few weeks and months especially here’s my take:


    1. most were probably warranted BUT- I took a hell of a lot of grief from absolute dip stick posters before I acquired these “reprimands”

    2. “Uncivil” warnings - oh I’ve had a few, even in the last couple of weeks- again some were misinterpreted as simple jesting and totally just humour and weren’t at all uncivil but so be it - BUT- Jesus the amount of absolute b0ll0x I took from some posters before I responded and got my warnings - again, I still see these posters on threads -which had I done what they did, I wouldn’t be here at this stage.


    im glad to see others now complaining of over-banning and warnings/ at least I’m not the only one experiencing it.

    What I notice about boards is that it’s become very aggressive - YOURE WRONG IM RIGHT- sort of aggressive - MOCKING behaviour - and not just by one poster- oh no, a good pile on.

    Sorry but that behaviour has to stop and be clamped down on.

    I’m more than happy with the new rules- but it has to be a level playing field - I don’t expect to be badgered and mocked on threads in future but if I am and if I report posters posts that are doing this I expect them to be actioned - otherwise then yes, the new rules are simply window dressing and good posters will leave for very petty reprimands from mods



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Yes, we all know the limitations of Vanilla for mods, we know there's a shortage of mods in CA, but there has to be a better solution than petty rules lawyering.

    That just leaves posts open to be reported and genuine posters sanctioned because their post is viewed in isolation and so appears to violate the rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Isn't it funny then, another Admin said Id still be warned if I posted the following:

    The following embedded link contains a clip from the FOX interview between Harris and Baier.

    I enjoyed this quite a lot:

    INSERT LINK WITH FREEZEFRAME OF HARRIS AND BAIER MID-INTERVIEW

    Might actually watch the full thing. She didn't put up with any sh*t here. Fair play to her.

    Why not just throw the baby out with the bathwater and just ban links altogether?

    I mean you nil pointed me for a link dump, but if I was to change my posting style to put the ridiculous arbitrary description at the start, I would still be warned, except now it would be a pointed warning.

    Site rules have gone to sh*te and are as clear as mud.

    I don't know how many people on this thread have said what I posted wasn't a link dump, given the context, except for two admin and a mod, circling the wagons.

    It's so weird to see this happening in real time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Well, as you will have seen from my early posts in this thread, I would have stated that the mods can’t “sanction” you unless you breaks the rules. At no point did I abuse anyone, at no point did I attack anyone and at no point did my posts breach the site rules.

    Suggesting users change their posting “style” to avoid, repeated, warnings from the mods is hardly “being a dick”.

    I’ve had a few warnings in my time, for breaking the site rules. I’ve never had to wear the “prison bars”, though, I’d like that made clear.

    Now, I can’t say that you, yourself, haven’t been directly abusive but, please, don’t take my replying to your post as some sort of “pile on”.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ukraine war thread is a good example of one particular poster who posted quality posts who got banned a good while ago because they reacted and responded to posters who were less than genuine in their posting style - I thought that was a shame- poster will remain nameless but the thread was a lesser place without them - what was needed was clear modding of trolls and idiots - not reprimanding a quality contributor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I just told you I’ve gotten a few “warnings”. I just don’t blame the mods for it.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,575 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Are you seriously suggesting that nobody should be allowed to use links because you can't dump them?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,526 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    And I just informed you of how others perceive your behaviour.

    The fact that you're questioning the behaviour of others on a thread where you've been openly insulting to people you disagree with is a clear indication of your own hypocrisy as well as the leniency that you're granted, hence the sycophantic reverence you're displaying to mods here.

    We've all had situations where we've deserved a warning or bans and accepted it as valid, most of us however aren't conceited enough to feel entitled to abuse people on the grounds of it seeming to be permissible.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I get it.

    You feel the mod team are under attack.

    I get it.

    It's hard to be objective when you feel you're under attack.

    I don't know how many posters have said what I posted wasn't a linkdump. You, and the two admin however, think it was. I and a few others see that as the mod team circling the wagons.

    Don't you see there's an issue with that alone?

    I asked if I put a description beforehand (which would be completely redundant due to the context the post was delivered in), a different Admin said I'd still receive a warning.

    There's been many pithy, "I can't believe I have to explain what a linkdump is" responses, but apparently the admin and mods also can't agree on what a linkdump is.

    So yeah, if you're going to ban linkdumps, but the moderation team can't actually agree on what a linkdump is, maybe it would be easier to just ban links.

    It is as ridiculous as it sounds.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,542 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I don't know how many people on this thread have said what I posted wasn't a link dump, given the context, except for two admin and a mod, circling the wagons.

    And many others (excluding mods and admins) have said it was.

    So what's your point?

    Some people agree with you. Some people don't. The only ones that matter are the moderators of the forum. They have told you how to avoid the same warning in the future.

    It's up to you now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    What are you blathering about? What others? All I’ve seen is direct attacks from some and support from others. Some people take a, deeply, personal dislike of those they don’t agree with, or those who think the mods, and admins, aren’t the ones “at fault”.

    I didn’t question anyone’s behaviour. I, simply, proffered a solution on to how to avoid getting in, repeated, “trouble” with the mods.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,575 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No. I don't think other people should be banned from posting links simply because you can't use them properly. That's all it is.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 133 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I remember correctly a mod was sacked in the last few months having gone from being a reasonable poster to being a little Hitler when made a mod. The number of complaints were horrendous with the mod trying and failing to defend the indefensible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,526 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Even the first sentence of your post here is to my mind unacceptable. "what are you blathering about?", you have a horrible attitude towards people and it shows.

    The other people I'm talking about are other users who have expressed their opinions to me privately.

    Your whole stchick here is that you're one of the good guys helping the site root out" problem user's", which is an absolutely nauseating thing to observe.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    I've no doubt this thread will be closed down shortly for some lame excuse by one of the mods and all will be swept under the carpet again.

    ______________________________________

    Warned: Trolling. You have had warnings previously for similar types of posts

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Did I do a link dump?

    I don't know what answer you were expecting.

    People can't break down the hypotheticals you dream up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭uptherebels




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Then maybe, just maybe, the mod's view is not the norm; and needs to be explicitly written out and clarified in the forum charter(s)? Because from the overall summary of this thread, I think you are working from a very different dictionary to the majority of users.

    >And many others (excluding mods and admins) have said it was.

    How many of those others though aren't in the cohort that some people are considering… well, teacher's pets? Suckups? Toeing the company line? Prospective future moderators that fit the current admin/mod team's narrow definition?



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