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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Actually I was surprised at how much noise they made, I'm used to completely silent EVs.

    I think the cooling system for the battery is constantly running, given the size of the battery

    I particularly like the side cameras instead of mirrors, I've seen a few buses out of service because they whacked the mirror off something and broke it

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Was in Copenhagen for the weekend. I'd say over 70% of the cars and buses were electric. I never passed any remarks but my wife did say how quiet it was compared to Dublin. In fairness the public transport was excellent and very cheap. Airport to the city centre on a metro that runs every 2 minutes for €4. A 30 minute taxi journey was 15 minutes on the metro!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭zg3409


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    LOL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I drove from Dublin to Kerry and back over the weekend, first trip in the EV. Stopped off at Obamas and had to install the ESB app and top it up before I could charge and it starting lashing rain as I stood there which was not a great start! Got it going after some help from a more experienced user beside me and stopped off again in the Cresent shopping centre on the way home for another charge, cost me about €40 in total plus a full charge at home but having all the bells and whistles in the car made it a far more enjoyable 7 hours driving than in the previous petrol cars. Bit of a shame that doing 120kph seems to affect the range but other than that I have no complaints and delighted we made the move over to an EV

    Time is contagious, everyone is getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    In sysadmin world that would be referred to zero 9s uptime, or 0% uptime 🤦🏻‍♂️

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    When I last used public charging was May 2024. Not interested in all that crap any more. It makes no financial sense either and it sure as shyt isn't going to save the Earth !



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Mod Note: Disussion of the environmental impact of materials used to produce EVs moved to existing thread.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Interesting approach to rolling out charging infrastructure in car parks. CircleK in Norway had something similar for early build out of CCS infrastructure.

    Could we see the substation in a box from ESB Networks, coupled with chargers in a box to really speed up rollouts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    In this country? I recently saw another project similar in the US, much smaller, but easier deployment. I'm trying to remember the name.

    l.e. found it https://beamforall.com/product/ev-arc-2020/



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    It's happening, the wonderful world of Athlone is all electric post office vans for years and since last year all TFI buses are electric around the town, couple of the DPD delivery vans are electric and of course the general populous has a fair few EVs now too, I'm pretty sure I was among the first with the Leaf back in the day so great to see



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    My Oh has the ev 10 weeks this week,all urban driving of approx 280km per week,charged at night at 12.5 c,fuel cost for 10 weeks approx 75e.

    Previously paying approx 50e weekly for petrol and also extra purchases when visiting filling station,ev was best decision we made,also have home charger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    This is the perfect example of an EV suiting someone.

    Cheaper fuel costs & helping the local environment as well.

    Do you mind me asking what EV you have & was it an expensive model ?

    What day rate are you paying for electricity?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Eleusis


    Iv found EV to be very cheap and convenient for me.

    Got an EV start of Jan this year. Mostly school runs, GAA trainings and matches etc. We have a 2nd car (7 seater Touran)

    Total approx running costs to me so far this year for 21,000km is: €198.44

    1372 kwh from Grid @ 0.0754 = €103.44

    + €95 euro from public chargers = €198.44

    2368kwh from Solar.

    The same usage in my Diesel Touran (mostly short cold journeys) @ Approx 11cent/km = €2310.

    Before we got EV we always said we would use the ICE car for long journeys. However so far we have still chosen to use the EV for long journeys, because its more comfortable and cheaper. Its easy to plan a quick stop along the way. Maybe im lucky but iv used the public chargers a few times now with no hassle or queues at all.

    Recently stopped in kinnegad on the way home. Put car on charge. Went to for wee, got a coffee and a sandwich(no queues). When I got back to the car there was nearly 15% on it. Way more than I needed to get home. I didnt even have time to eat my sandwich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Very similar mileage to myself except I'm paying slightly less than 6c per unit, practically free driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,190 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Pretty much mirrors what we did in terms of using the cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,229 ✭✭✭creedp


    Fully agree that EVs are far cheaper that ICEs but that much solar would have cost me €568 in foregone export income



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,743 ✭✭✭✭josip


    50e for 280km works out at ~10l/100km. Is that correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Be about right for an older generation engine in urban use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭pad406


    It's still relatively cheap, but that 2368kWh is costing you in terms of lost feed in tariff. At say 21c per kWh that would be nearly €500, you'd possibly be better, financially, to use the off-peak for extra charging and let the solar go back to the grid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    E tron 55, 2 years old,OH was driving Audi Q2 1.5l petrol before the etron,OH will only drive Audi,(took a long time to convince them to drive EV,uses it for ferrying children and short urban trips,OH absolutely loves the car.I feel its a bit big but its some car and cheap to run.My daytime rate is 25c per unit, I also get 20c per unit for solar feed in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Id say its ballpark, it was a 1.5 petrol Q2, all urban,50% heavy traffic.50e was put in every sunday for a weeks driving.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    And would be a true reflection of ICE costs in an urban scenario. We had a 520d that done 99% urban trips. Its average mpg was late 20’s. It only hit the 50’s on long motorway trips.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Ev fan


    Routinely on roughly a monthly basis I do Sligo-Dublin return trip and nearly always stop in Kinnegad for a break and charge- up both ways. I spend on average eur 25 per month doing this and so expect about eur 300 for rapid charging for the year. Home charge at night rate roughly maybe once per week so costing something like eur 20 per month or eur 240 a year so my rapid charging is costing me more. Overall happy as its a lot less cost than running an ICE. Also have solar panels which generates a micro generation credit so Overall happy with the financials and importantly for me making my small green contribution to the planet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Still trying to get the last 2 guys in work to go EV and proving difficult. 6 of the 8 company cars are now EVs but 2 are sticking with their older, paid off cars. Theres telematics in all company vehicles so I filtered for days over 250kms driven for both of them and it was under 10 each so worst case scenario they'd be stopping 10 times a year to public charge, and even at that only for a few mins.

    They would rather pay the full BIK than get a new car and publicly charge. As their cars age I guess they'll change their minds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Other than potential BIK savings there is no reason to want an EV as a company car. If someone else is paying for your fuel, there’s little incentive. At best they might move to a PHEV but many company car PHEV drivers don’t bother to plug them in. Equally if they’re in cars that they like they’re not going to care about the increasing maintenance costs as they get older. What are they driving currently ? Is there a comparable PHEV or EV that would be attractive available to them ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    2020 Skoda Kodiaq and 2019 Nissan X Trail, so yeah there's plenty similar available. Skoda guy would be brand loyal he had 2 superbs before the Kodiaq. Nissan guy wouldn't care about brand.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    The over 250km days, what’s the total?
    Would they even need to stop at all in modern EV?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I picked 250kms as a distance where they might have to at least think about charging. And that's in around 10 days each per year. There was 1 or 2 days they were in munster from Dublin so you around 400. But most of the work is around Dublin and surrounding areas.

    This would include anything they've done on their own time, weekend trips or whatever I didn't check whether they were workdays or leisure trips.

    They'd both be in around a full tank of diesel a week so about 800kms which costs over 100 euro so that would be significant cut of 800 a month from our diesel bill (which is 20k a month with all our vans) 2 full EV charges would cost about 250 a month.

    Also the fact that when time comes to change the EV in the class of car they want to drive is probably going to be cheaper than the diesel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    How does it work for home charging or are all EVs charged in the workplace?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Of the 6, 3 of us have home chargers and 3 don't. We rarely charge at home.

    We've no formal system for claiming back charging expenses but we're all extended family so there's no issue there. More to do with overall package and being happy with it. Theres no problem getting reimbursed for expenses though and subsistence



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