Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

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Interesting see protection for whistleblowers there in SF @FrancieBrady

Another thing- why did Eoin O’Broin retweet a Stanley story on Friday if so egregious?

Are you suggesting that Mary Lou being informed on Saturday resulted in her leaking this to other party members in breach of any reasonable procedures?

SF are a cult. No ifs no buts..

Stanley knows where the bodies are buried in SF, I suspect. He is going to play this one out slowly and surely and will be a nightmware for SF HQ.

As the saying goes

No one can hate you with more intensity than someone who used to love you.

 We need a few weeks' supply of popcorn for this.

Rumours around Leinster House that Simon Harris might make the Dail sit on Friday, to get its order done so it can call an election there and then.

BUT, I would think Id let this rumble on another week, and call the election next week. Get the Sunday and Weekend papers some SF red meat. Let the party tear itself apart bit by bit.

MLMD made the same mistake earlier so?

Interesting that Ditch media haven’t had a word to say about it all despite their fearless “journalism”.

How so?

I said to a poster a good while before Stanley gave his statement that it was quite possible the complaint of a criminal nature was made by Stanley.
Why? Because of the way MLMD carefully addressed it - a 'counter allegation' was made.

If the Garda complaint wasnt directed at Stanley, why leave it up to people to interpret that he was the main suspect for 48 hours? She was on Newstalk yesterday.

This has been handled woefully by SF and MLMD.

You probably think this is good news for them :D

So do we know that in fact in was the counter claim from Stanley that introduced the criminal matter?

I thought I read that Stanley was to be deciplined. If it's a case that the party via sham court were going to punish him when the truth was that a criminal act was carried out against him, well the whole SF organisation is in trouble.

Correct

Mary Lou was not able to say what the matter was about this morning.

But she will have to…………

If there is a matter of course.

Partner*

Answer the question. Why did a SF MEP have the details on Sunday morning when the process was supposed to be closed shop.

Why was Lynn Boylan talking about two sides and criticising Stanley, when it appears that the criminal complaint comes from Stanley himself?

This is classic attacking the whistleblower, something you claim to value most of all.

On the barrister, MLMD was very clear that it was the presence of a barrister that made it arms length from the party, not the leadership. This is the direct quote.

The report also went to the head of our disciplinary committee, and I should say the Sinn Féin disciplinary process is supervised by a barrister, by a legal professional. It’s at arm’s length from the party itself.

The counter allegation was made weeks ago, but they only decided to notify the Gardai yesterday?

The timeline from SF HQ is all over the place and is full of holes like Swiss Cheese.

Stanley resigned on Saturday night. Surely the party members being briefed once that happened would be normal in those circumstances?

There was a complaint against Stanley and one he made himself. She challenged him to reveal what the complaint was about.

On the barrister: MLMD said the 'whole process was at arm's length including the barrister.

MW: Were they circulated to you as well?

MMcD: No, absolutely not. I’ve said to you now repeatedly…this whole process is at arm’s length from the party. It would be utterly inappropriate for me to have access to that documentation. My first briefing, my first correct and full briefing, I should say, was on the back of Brian Stanley resigning on Saturday night. So I was briefed on matters on Saturday night by the party chair.

*Bolding mine

Why would party members be briefed about something that included an accusation against another party member? Is that fair on that party member?

Or are you suggesting here that Lynn Boylan herself was only informed of half the story- which itself throws up huge issues.

Why did Lynn Boylan simply “no comment” something involving members of her party that apparently has fair procedures. Instead her immediate move was to go on the radio and attack Brian Stanley.

The barrister was not at arms length to the party as a member, that is what she tried to spin in her pre rehearsed statement but unfortunately for her she was asked a further question on it. It was NOT regarding the leadership as you attempted to deflect to.

And you are saying that details of that investigation involving another party member was leaked to Lynn Boylan on Saturday.

Why would party members be briefed about something that included an accusation against another party member? Is that fair on that party member?

Because once he resigned the process terminated and party members would have to be briefed. Makes sense to me anyway.

Or are you suggesting here that Lynn Boylan herself was only informed of half the story- which itself throws up huge issues.

Why did Lynn Boylan simply “no comment” something involving members of her party that apparently has fair procedures. Instead her immediate move was to go on the radio and attack Brian Stanley.

I don't know why. I would think it the norm that party members would be informed after a high profile resignation

Have you considered the point above she may be the complainant?

The barrister was not at arms length to the party as a member, that is what she tried to spin in her pre rehearsed statement but unfortunately for her she was asked a further question on it. It was NOT regarding the leadership as you attempted to deflect to.

The 'barrister' was there as a professional balanced by Stanley's barrister. Perfectly normal IMO.

If Jim O'Callaghan can represent Gerry Adams professionally I don't see why or how you can call his or hers professionalism into disrepute here.

Again, the barrister and the leadership were at 'arms length' was the claim made.

MMcD: 

No, absolutely not. I’ve said to you now repeatedly…this whole process is at arm’s length from the party. It would be utterly inappropriate for me to have access to that documentation. My first briefing, my first correct and full briefing, I should say, was on the back of Brian Stanley resigning on Saturday night. So I was briefed on matters on Saturday night by the party chair.