Israel are going to start WWIII

The worm is turning recently. The western media are starting to figure out that they have been played by Israel lies and propaganda and are starting to ask tough questions and fact check the well planned Israeli nonsense.

I'm assuming, given Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, you mean their enrichment facilities and/or nuclear power stations?

Whatever they do, I think you're right - it'll be sooner rather than later - within days I'd imagine.

But that said, even now I'm wondering if Gallant's message is just posturing? I'm not convinced - if this is going to be something "surprising", why pre-announce it? The time element of "surprise" is now gone. Presumably it'll be "surprising" in another way?

What Gallant has said would perfectly fit the bill for the pagers and walkie-talkies - I think everyone was definitely taken by complete surprise, especially Hezbollah.

Its impossible to know what he's talking about, or if he's bluffing, or something else.

Naturally this will be spun as terrorists getting what they deserve, blah blah, blah blah, blah. No doubt the useful idiots (see what I did there) will be on soon to justify this anytime soon.

The Irish claim to Ireland is because we were here first then the British invaded so we consider the North still occupied. Palestine is a different situation completely as Jerusalem was founded by the Jews, they didn’t just rock up there out of the blue.

Over 60% of Argentinians should be allowed to go to London and seize property and kill those that resist. Actually, make it all of England for that matter

Am I doing it right?

What i said. What's the end game. What's their vision for what gaza and their relationship with gaza looks like. After all this is over Gaza will still be there. the westbank will still be there. So how is it going to look when they decide their finished. And how does that prevent something similar happening again?

Their current strategy seems to be bomb the crap out of Gaza. What does that achieve? At the end of it there's going to be tens of thousands of civilians killed. Many more maimed. That's not going to destroy Hamas. They're going to increase their support.

By that standard Irish Americans can move to Belfast and kick unionists out. If an Irish american comes over to Ireland and says their ancestors left during the famine, we don't think they're entitled to a home here, or citizenship or anything like that. Half of us would get annoyed when they call themselves Irish. They are an american. They may have a kinship with Ireland, but they don't have a right to settle here.

The idea that someone has a right to a land because their ancestors lived there is just ridiculous. It's so long ago a genealogist couldn't even trace it. It's so long ago that for the majority they have more direct ancestors from outside the Levant than from inside. We would laugh at any other people that make that claim, but for some reason we except it from jewish people. Why is that? Why do they have a right to land that their ancestors left thousands of years ago but no other group does?

The thing is that we've gone so far past that point in the levant. Israel exists. It's there. Whatever about the rights of jewish people to "own" it, it's already an existing reality. However, we need to ditch the idea that they have an inherent right to all that land. Because it's that stupid religious thinking, that God gave it to them, that is leading to settlements in the occupied territories. And the settlements need to stop.

Israel needs to realise that they don't have a right to all the land. They have to recognise their neighbors. They have to recognise the rights of the Palestinians. The only path to security is peace with their neighbours. Dismantle all the settlements. Stop blocking a Palestianian state. Stop blocking the ability of the Palestinians to determine their own future.

They have a right to defend themselves, something something something.

It's not a right of conquest. It's the punishment you get for starting a war in the first place.

Russia has one for ethnic Russians to move to Crimea or the Donbas too.

Ironically though, if you want to look at the German example, you should contrast it with the forcible removal of Palestinians from their land and the refusal of the zionists to allow them to return to their homes…..

can you please go back there ?

I'm not so sure. I do think in "peace time" they will continue to build illegal settlements and continue to make the lives of the Palestinians under their control miserable. Without Iran and Hezbollah around they could do this in relative peace as the other Arab countries are doing nothing to support the Palestinian cause.

That's a Wikipedia link. Come back to me when you have data from a reliable source.

There needs to be a new border drawn, where Palestine becomes it's own country with it's own self determination, including the proviso that Israel stays the hell out of it. The occupied territories, at least in part, need to be handed back and the gradual Israeli encroachment on Palestinian land needs to be stopped. By force, if necessary. This will probably have to be under the UN, with UN troops involved as a buffer between the two new states until the realisation of the new conditions become a reality with both parties.

Unfortunately, until the US gets on board with that, it will never happen. It'll also take a very long time to bed in, as it were, because Palestine has been under the Jewish boot for decades and has never been allowed to flourish in any way. It is so, because the US have long term ambitions in the Middle East that see Israel as a possible partner should such things come to pass.

BTW, referring to the Palestinian Authority, bear in mind that Israel bankrolled Hamas (and have allowed money from other nefarious entities in Arab nations to roll in as well) with the view of minimising the PA, Abbas and the possibility of Palestinian statehood. In a future where Palestine is to be its own national entity, it's imperative the that likes of Netanyahu and the headbangers in Likud be gone from the scene, as they aren't remotely interested in anything but the elimination of Palestine, dominance over Israel's neighbours and the whole Palestinian region being greater Israel.