KIA EV3

I paid 20 K 2nd hand 26,000 Kms 2020.

Rapid off the line no but I don't really care because it's fast enough for Irish roads with decent torque for a 1.0L 3 Cyl with 120 Hp, it's a lot more engaging than any EV and all that torque in a straight line gets boring after a while. I'm actually very happy with it. That's all that matters in the end.

besides, now I have my A license I'm having a lot more fun than any car, I'll be spending as little as possible on cars going forward, too expensive and the tax is ridiculous.

Yeah, estates and minivans were far more practical.

Says the lad who had to get his hands on an ID3 the moment they came out…..

Can we keep this thread on topic please instead of having a discussion about the pros and cons of a 1 litre, 120hp Kia Ceed or how buying a second hand car is cheaper than buying new? I am sure there are plenty of other threads where those discussions can be had… or perhaps even start one of your own.

Anyway, moving back to topic:

Plenty of people will buy an EV3 because they either like it, want it, or can afford to as they feel it is a good deal. Personally, I am going to be in the market for a new EV next year and I am seriously considering this, the new Skoda EV or a new Kona. A higher driving position and easy access for passengers is high on my list as I have those particular needs for me and my family so an "SUV", crossover or jacked up hatchback (whatever you want to call it) will fit the bill nicely.

The price for this vehicle is pretty much in line with everything else and looks to be a reasonably sized car for the money. It is not an econobox or a supermini on steroids either. Besides, almost every car out there suitable for a small family is over the 30k mark with some decent spec these days.

Were you driving EV's before the id3?

Looks like the 19" wheels on the EV3 reduce the max range by about 40km. 17" only available on base model.

0% finance up to the eyes in debt for an expensive gadget which is what it is in reality add to that it's an eyesore inside and out but each to their own.

mad_lad lost a lot of money on his ID3 purchase. I believe he paid 41k back in 2021, and was offered low 20's earlier this year. He said he handed it back to VW finance, so he used PCP. He lost any equity he would have had in his car if he just paid off his balloon payment. I'm not going to judge him because circumstances can change, and markets change.

PCP is just a way of getting people to fork out cash for a car with the temptation of buying a much more expensive car because the monthly payments are lower, often much lower, the reason being you pay the calculated depreciation + interest of the car based on your calculated mileage estimate for 3 years driving. Often the dealer puts you down for doing way lower mileage to make the monthly payments lower but the result of this is a lot higher balloon at the end and if you go way over your mileage and hand the car back after the 3 years they will charge you something like 8 cent per Km over.

At the end of the day the big balloon payment comes back to bite, you won't really save money buying any new car be it EV or ICE.

The real reason I handed back the ID3 to VW finance, from the horses mouth, not some gobshyte here who hasn't a clue was because I wanted rid of the id3 due to various issues and so much of the cars functions being done through a touch screen in menus where I now have traditional controls to do all that myself without all the distractions and software issues.

I could return the car under the half rule which doesn't effect your credit history, this applies to Hire Purchase or PCP, so rather than pay the full price of the car I gave it back before I wasted 20 more K on the car. + the usual EV issues, charging, range, charge times that people here say is not an issue, believe me, after 10 years driving EV I no longer wished to put myself through that shyte.

The reason I handed the car back is because no car dealer wanted it as trade in and I wasn't willing to spend stupid money again on an over priced eco box electric car, once the novelty wears off a you think how much money you wasted you realise that that's all they are is over priced eco boxes.

I wasn't offered 20K for it either, I was offered between 11 and 15 K after 2.5 years old.

Don't be the fool I was and go on PCP or pay so much for an eco box whether EV or ICE. Save your money because EV will not save you money. And don't let 0% PCP fool you either, just buy a cheap car 15K or less in decent nick and spend the rest on holidays or whatever, anything is better than spending money on new cars and have thousands of that go to the Government in tax, F1ck that !

Yeah, we've more than enough money to do a zero PCP on a big **** off EV and cover the balloon with annual bonuses that mature every 3 years, so it works for us. Still take those holidays though, you're right about that.

You had a unfortunate experience with your ID3 but it appears that you're vehemently against EVs, previously calling EV enthusiasts 'pro liberal earth huggers' or something along those lines. EVs are cheap to run and can be fun to drive. I've saved thousands in fuel compared to a similar new ICE. I don't really care about depreciation. Whether ICE or EV nobody really knows until it comes to trade in. I always take 50% as the minimum depreciation curve after 3 years.

Personally I'd rather buy a new ID3 GTX plus than a new Golf GTI/R, and save up to 20k in the process. Others may not share the same opinion as me but theres nothing wrong with that.

Buying a new car for with cash only is not a good financial decision if finance rates are near 0% while deposit rates are 2-3-4%. If someone wants to buy a new car, and they can comfortably afford it then fair play to them.

A few months ago you said you were offered low 20s for your ID3 from VW dealers, and between something like 12-15k from non main dealers.

Good for you, cycling is always the better option for the planet, hope you enjoy your next car whatever it will be.

So back on topic: is there an update yet on when the EV3 is available to test drive here in Ireland? Would love to have a closer look at one and see what's actually included and what isn't.

You got a Rexcycle so? Seeing as you are always banging on about Rex this Rex that. Not sure why your telling folks in the EV3 thread though.

On the EV3, it looks ok, would be a good seller if they trimmed the prices a bit and offered 0% interest on them for more than the launch cycle of a few months.

Did exactly that with my current EV, and will likely do the same with the next one. :)

Interesting how the ID3 has 1cm more ground clearance and 2% more interior space. Shows how efficient the packaging is.