KIA EV3

AMKC

Due out next year probably be mid to late next year.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/kia-ev3#comment-381678

Looks OK. Just another SUV do :(

Miscreant

This one, I will definitely be looking at seriously. I have a Soul EV right now and absolutely love it so this looks like it may be used by KIA as the replacement.

Like with the EV5 though, I will wait until a production ready version before I decide. 🙂

fafy

Looks good, and seems to be very similar in size to the new Volvo EX30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058298633/volvo-ex30/p1

TitianGerm

https://youtu.be/oKMxBw0RtcM?si=quYnLvbYD73NZLl_

Nobby has a first look up on YouTube.

Looks great to me and could be a serious option when we eventually change the Ioniq 5.

Edit: Nobby maybe you'd be able to shed some light on the actual size of the car in the metal? It looks bigger than an ID3 and much closer to an ID4 size in the video. Where does it compare in person?

fafy

has some very nice touches, looks impressive, a little odd the smaller battery is not coming here.

another review here from Autogefühl, i like this German guy, he goes into some of the detail other reviewers don’t.

https://youtu.be/502-rrnEefA?si=mdt7ZWM5Yap5i4gE

ffocused

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175292#Comment_122175292

press release contains all the info including dimensions.

https://www.kianewscenter.com/News/kia-ev3-delivers-elevated-electric-suv-experience-for-all-with-innovative-technology-and-advanced-de/s/6f0a8f45-a919-4d48-a602-ddaf955aba50

In summary, it’s roughly the width of ID4 and length and height of ID3

EV3

4300mm L 1850 W 1560 H

ID3

4264mm L 1809 W 1564 H

ID4

4584mm L 1852 w 1640 H

Oafley Jones

Looks great. Better looking car than the EV9.

edit. That speed warning OTA update can't come soon enough.

MarkN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122176103#Comment_122176103

yes because he gets special treatment from a lot of the brands, more time with cars, studio first looks etc whereas the rest of us have to elbow our way into car premieres when he’s been in a studio that afternoon with time to do multiple takes :)

The channel is huge though so fair play to him.

Old diesel

I know this is supposed to at least indirectly replace the eSoul.

But the 81 kwh battery pretty much makes the Niro EV surplus to requirements.

I'd expect current happy eNiro drivers to be much more likely to buy this then the current Niro EV.

Also unless Kia really scrape the undercarriage out of things with pricing.

Then this has potential to offer real value for an 81 kwh battery car.

Especially if as reported the EU goes ahead and slaps 25 percent tariffs on chinese EVs.

Edit

Obviously talks of 32 grand sterling and the like in Uk will be for a 58 kwh car with the 81 kwh attracting a premium on top

ColemanY2K

My concern would be the poor drag coefficient (is that what it's called?).

I do 250km round trips (75% motorway, 25% N/R roads) three times a week and then ~250km across the other four days. This car wouldn't be for me given the amount of motorway driving I do which is a pity as it looks like a really nice machine. I particularly like the amount of physical buttons which is going against the grain of modern EVs.

Busman Paddy Lasty

Hyundai/Kia make efficient cars though. The 64kWh Soul did 310km at motorway speed when Teslabjorn did a range test. I'd be surprised if Kia make a newer similar car with less range.

Oafley Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180925#Comment_122180925

0.26 isn't that bad. It's better than the EV6, ID3/4s

D_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181023#Comment_122181023

I was going to say the exact same... Have no idea how this has a better Cd than the EV6

denismc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175292#Comment_122175292

I was thinking the same, but this looks to be a bit smaller than the Ioniq 5, especially in the boot.

All depends on price though!

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181075#Comment_122181075

There's a bigger EV5 on the way too.

denismc

130kW charging speed is a little disappointing, I guess they are marketing this as a local commuter rather than a motorway cruiser.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181054#Comment_122181054

Cd is only half of the story. The A, i.e. the front cross section is an important part of the CdA.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122179527#Comment_122179527

You'll need to start wearing blue suits Mark 😉

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181175#Comment_122181175

It's certainly nothing special for an 81kWh battery in this day and age

I was kind of picturing it like the ID.3 with a 58kWh battery. Mostly for shorter trips but very capable of doing a longer trip if you want to

I presume this has the 800V architecture as well? I would have expected closer to EV6 charging speeds in that case

D_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181491#Comment_122181491

No, they went for a 400V architecture for the EV3 to save on some cost to keep the price low… Results in the charging speed being approx. half of the EV6 and the 800V architecture

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181500#Comment_122181500

Ah that's interesting, I thought all of Kia/Hyundai EVs were going to be 800V from now on

It's very strange considering they went for the bigger battery anyway. I wonder where the extra expense for 800V comes from, I always assumed it was down to needing more batteries in series but maybe it's something else

In any case a VW with a 77kWh battery is now charging at 185kW peak, so 130kW is definitely not fantastic nowadays

Busman Paddy Lasty

Don't the EV6 and Ioniq5 use the motor to step 400v up to 800v or something like that. So a price sensitive smaler EV3 might not be able to accommodate the size and cost of doing that.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183075#Comment_122183075

If I remember correctly, the motor in the EV6 steps up the 400V from the charger to 800V to charge the battery

It's smart because otherwise you'd need a separate converter like the Porsche Taycan, which could be power limited

It also saves on costs because you don't need extra components

There's other way to do the same thing, for example the Porsche Macan splits the pack in two when connected to a 400V charger, so it'll actually like it's charging two batteries at half the current each

Obviously it's better to use an 800V charger, but it makes the best of what you get

While an 800V motor, controller and charger would cost more than a 400V version, it's hard to imagine there's that big a enough cost difference to matter. Particularly when Kia is already making those motors for other EVs

I wonder are they buying in the components from a vendor instead of manufacturing them

Otherwise I just can't wrap my head around it 🤷‍♂️

Busman Paddy Lasty

Cost is what I'm going with, assuming lower size/power 400v motor is cheaper, factoring in cooling apparatus and warranty uncertainty.

Marketing material for EV6 and Ioniq5 was VTL omg microwave a pie! Charge from 10 to 80% in 12 minutes. They don't need that charge speed for non flagship car so I guess margin is their focus.

Oh I was so used to 56kW charging with Niro I'd blow my load getting 100kW never mind 130.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181175#Comment_122181175

This shows how charging curve can be just as important as the peak rate.

You see the actual claimed charging time on the EV3 is 10 to 80 percent in 31 mins.

With the 81 kW pack this requires an average charging rate of 109.7 over the whole session.

Suggesting an extremely flat charging curve up to 80 percent.

Worth looking at Nissan Ariya charging tests because the real life Ariya charging tests align really well with what Kia are claiming in both peak charge rate and charge times.

The big Ariya pack is only 7 kwh more than the long range EV3 in usable capacity terms.

John arse

I think it's gorgeous - compared to it's ugly sister the EV5, just my opinion.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283664#Comment_122283664

I think it is the better looker of the 2 as well. Just waiting to see pricing now, which will be interesting considering KIA have just dropped the price of the Niro EV by about €4.5k to around €38.5k.

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283772#Comment_122283772

You don't want to hazard a guess by any chance? 😉

John arse

Dropped ev6 price too to make way for new facelift model.

TitianGerm

Looks like order books are opening first of August in the UK and prices start at £33K.

ffocused

UK pricing is broadly in line with Niro EV, apart from 58kw version which is a bit less.

My guess is we will get 2 trims Earth approx €40k and GT Line approx €45k both with 81kw battery and heat pump after grants.

https://www.kia.com/uk/new-cars/ev3/pricing/

kave2

When will EV3 be available here? Any info on pricing? I

Stallingrad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181023#Comment_122181023

Same as an Opel Calibre somehow.

freddieot

I see kia UK already have them on their configurator. They also have the refreshed EV6.

I'm hoping myself that kia ireland get their finger out soon as I'm interested in changing soon.

padjocollins

https://youtu.be/Lu7qbFWf6i0?si=WtiNcPsKvd1y287f

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122629682#Comment_122629682

It'll sell like hot cakes if as your man claims it has real world range of 560km.

Evilcamper

Just got a call from the dealer 4 models being released in Ireland with the earth 1,2,3,and GT line. Price for GT line is 49k and the lowest price was somewhere in the mid 38k post grant but pre VRT relief. 0% financing as well. I think proper pricing and spec will be released this week.

pad199207

Available online now

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122693285#Comment_122693285

Where? There's nothing on the Kia website.

rdewit83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122694632#Comment_122694632

Go to Car Configurator (can't post links yet, go to the main Kia website and click on Configurator on the top right) and click on the EV3 (in the middle somewhere when looking at the website using a laptop/desktop).

Kind of disappointed with the top Irish spec, unless it's wrong. As far as I can see what's missing is (compared to the GT Line in other countries, like the UK):

• Harmon kardon sound system
• 360 Surround view monitor
• Relaxation seats
• Ventilated seats
• Memory seats

Again, this could just be an error on the Irish website, guess I'll have to contact a dealer to find out.

MarkN

EV3 - landing page is the link, I did try link it specifically to the EV3 but you can go into it from this link.

https://www.kia.com/ie/purchase-guide/car-configurator/#/Trim

freddieot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122694833#Comment_122694833

Good value if those items are included but poor value against the competition if they are left out. They've messed about with the Sorent PHEV as well, gone up in price but now no 360 cameras or bose system either, again making it poor value in an increasingly competitive segment.

Strange tactics.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122694843#Comment_122694843

Thanks for that @MarkNM. I noticed that the Earth 3 spec has a standard heat pump whereas the GT Line doesn't... bit of a weird omission on the more expensive car. If it is correct, then I think the Earth 3 might be the one to go for.

rdewit83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122694833#Comment_122694833

So just got a confirmation from Kia Ireland that the GT Line is missing the above, and also doesn't have a heat pump. Seems like a poor option so, at least the EV3 can be removed from the shortlist now!

Evilcamper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122696398#Comment_122696398

I just got the dealer telling me that the GT line does have a heat pump but might not have the 360 degree monitor as they are apparently linked to the sound system (sounds a bit crazy to me to link the two but apparently the Sorento and all other Kias are the same) so a bit confused but will find out Friday. TBH the camera and heat pump (if true) is the biggest loss for me, my mother has a niro EV 4 and we never used the additional seat options anyway.

rdewit83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122696424#Comment_122696424

I noticed the heat pump is down as optional on the Earth 3 spec if you look at the full feature list, but let's hope it comes as standard on the GT Line then. Even my 2019 Kona EV (that had **** all in terms of options) has a heat pump, shouldn't really be selling EVs without them in this climate.

derekreilly

***Press Release*** Kia Ireland announce EV3 pricing

• The Kia EV3 will arrive in Ireland next month with prices starting from €36,790
• Available in three trims including Earth 2, Earth 3 and GT-Line
• Featuring an 81.4kWh battery and AER range of up 605km; Earth 2 models also come with a 58.3kWh battery choice
• Breakthrough in thermal management technology gives EV3 battery efficiency and charging time edge over rivals, even in harsh conditions
• EV3 will be available with 0% finance for 251, starting from €186 per month

October 8th, 2024 – Kia has today revealed full pricing and specification for the eagerly anticipated EV3, the company’s dedicated compact EV SUV. With its combination of bold design, innovative technology, and groundbreaking features the EV3 sets a new standard in the compact EV SUV sector. Drawing on Kia’s advanced technology and customer-focused values of the brand’s larger, multi-award-winning EV9, the EV3 offers a unique, immersive experience and enhances customers’ expectations of what is possible in the segment. The EV3 will arrive in Ireland this November with prices starting from €36,790. EV3 will be available in three trims including Earth 2, Earth 3 and GT-line. Featuring an 81.4kWh battery and AER range of up 605km; Earth 2 models also come with a 58.3kWh battery choice featuring an AER range of 436km. The EV3’s battery is also equipped with a liquid cooling system, which is used during charging to optimise battery thermal management and enhance charging speeds enabling charging from 10 to 80 percent capacity in 29 minutes. EV3 will be available with 0% finance for 251 and is available from a monthly price of just €186 per month.The Earth 2 trim is available from €36,790 with the 58.3kwh battery, or €40,350 with 81.4 kWh battery and standard specification includes 17” alloy wheels, dual 12.3” display screens, LED headlights, Heated front seats & steering wheel, Wireless phone charging and android auto/ apple car play. Earth 3 is available exclusively with the 81.4kwh battery from €42,840 and features include 19” alloy wheels, Vegan leather seats, Power adjustable front seats and blind-spot collision avoidance. The range topping GT-line is available from €47,190 and adds GT-line styling, Vehicle-2-Load capabilities, Power adjustable sunroof and a Smart power tailgate.Speaking today, Managing Director of Kia Ireland Ronan Flood commented ““The EV3 features groundbreaking design and an industry-leading electric drivetrain. Coupled with its overall practicality and class leading interior spaciousness, we expect strong sales volumes for EV3 in 251. I would encourage anyone in the market for an EV to take a test drive in this car when it arrives in dealerships next month.”Full pricing for the Kia EV3 is as follows;

Earth 2 58.3 kWh 436KM €36,790

Earth 2 81.4kWh 605km €40,350

Earth 3 81.4kWh 560km €42,840

GT Line 81.4kWh 560km €47,190

Kia Ireland will offer the EV3 in seven body colors – Clear white, Snow white metallic, Ivory silver, Shale grey, Frost blue, Black pearl and Aventurine green which is exclusive to the new EV3.

Mad_Lad

Oh God, not another boring crap SUV……..

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122697899#Comment_122697899

Interesting that only the GT-Line has the V2L function. Most of the videos I watched on YouTube seemed to hint that it was across the range.

The KIA Ireland configurator needs to be updated properly as well. Some confusing info in there stating Heat Pump as standard on the Earth3 spec but then in the full configuration it says Optional.

I'm still interested in it as a replacement to my Kia Soul 64 though.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122700229#Comment_122700229

Maybe they all have the V2L functionality but only the GT-Line comes with the adapter ?

ednwireland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699275#Comment_122699275

did kia fire all their designers, ev7 and now ev 3 just awful looking boxes.