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KIA EV3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    This one, I will definitely be looking at seriously. I have a Soul EV right now and absolutely love it so this looks like it may be used by KIA as the replacement.

    Like with the EV5 though, I will wait until a production ready version before I decide. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭fafy


    Looks good, and seems to be very similar in size to the new Volvo EX30

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058298633/volvo-ex30/p1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,712 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Nobby has a first look up on YouTube.

    Looks great to me and could be a serious option when we eventually change the Ioniq 5.

    Edit: Nobby maybe you'd be able to shed some light on the actual size of the car in the metal? It looks bigger than an ID3 and much closer to an ID4 size in the video. Where does it compare in person?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭fafy


    has some very nice touches, looks impressive, a little odd the smaller battery is not coming here.


    another review here from Autogefühl, i like this German guy, he goes into some of the detail other reviewers don’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ffocused


    press release contains all the info including dimensions.

    https://www.kianewscenter.com/News/kia-ev3-delivers-elevated-electric-suv-experience-for-all-with-innovative-technology-and-advanced-de/s/6f0a8f45-a919-4d48-a602-ddaf955aba50

    In summary, it’s roughly the width of ID4 and length and height of ID3

    EV3

    4300mm L 1850 W 1560 H

    ID3

    4264mm L 1809 W 1564 H

    ID4

    4584mm L 1852 w 1640 H



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Looks great. Better looking car than the EV9.

    edit. That speed warning OTA update can't come soon enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭MarkN


    yes because he gets special treatment from a lot of the brands, more time with cars, studio first looks etc whereas the rest of us have to elbow our way into car premieres when he’s been in a studio that afternoon with time to do multiple takes :)

    The channel is huge though so fair play to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    I know this is supposed to at least indirectly replace the eSoul.

    But the 81 kwh battery pretty much makes the Niro EV surplus to requirements.

    I'd expect current happy eNiro drivers to be much more likely to buy this then the current Niro EV.

    Also unless Kia really scrape the undercarriage out of things with pricing.

    Then this has potential to offer real value for an 81 kwh battery car.

    Especially if as reported the EU goes ahead and slaps 25 percent tariffs on chinese EVs.

    Edit

    Obviously talks of 32 grand sterling and the like in Uk will be for a 58 kwh car with the 81 kwh attracting a premium on top



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    My concern would be the poor drag coefficient (is that what it's called?).

    I do 250km round trips (75% motorway, 25% N/R roads) three times a week and then ~250km across the other four days. This car wouldn't be for me given the amount of motorway driving I do which is a pity as it looks like a really nice machine. I particularly like the amount of physical buttons which is going against the grain of modern EVs.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Hyundai/Kia make efficient cars though. The 64kWh Soul did 310km at motorway speed when Teslabjorn did a range test. I'd be surprised if Kia make a newer similar car with less range.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    0.26 isn't that bad. It's better than the EV6, ID3/4s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭D_D


    I was going to say the exact same... Have no idea how this has a better Cd than the EV6



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭denismc


    I was thinking the same, but this looks to be a bit smaller than the Ioniq 5, especially in the boot.

    All depends on price though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭denismc


    130kW charging speed is a little disappointing, I guess they are marketing this as a local commuter rather than a motorway cruiser.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cd is only half of the story. The A, i.e. the front cross section is an important part of the CdA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    You'll need to start wearing blue suits Mark 😉

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's certainly nothing special for an 81kWh battery in this day and age

    I was kind of picturing it like the ID.3 with a 58kWh battery. Mostly for shorter trips but very capable of doing a longer trip if you want to

    I presume this has the 800V architecture as well? I would have expected closer to EV6 charging speeds in that case

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭D_D


    No, they went for a 400V architecture for the EV3 to save on some cost to keep the price low… Results in the charging speed being approx. half of the EV6 and the 800V architecture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Ah that's interesting, I thought all of Kia/Hyundai EVs were going to be 800V from now on

    It's very strange considering they went for the bigger battery anyway. I wonder where the extra expense for 800V comes from, I always assumed it was down to needing more batteries in series but maybe it's something else

    In any case a VW with a 77kWh battery is now charging at 185kW peak, so 130kW is definitely not fantastic nowadays

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Don't the EV6 and Ioniq5 use the motor to step 400v up to 800v or something like that. So a price sensitive smaler EV3 might not be able to accommodate the size and cost of doing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    If I remember correctly, the motor in the EV6 steps up the 400V from the charger to 800V to charge the battery

    It's smart because otherwise you'd need a separate converter like the Porsche Taycan, which could be power limited

    It also saves on costs because you don't need extra components

    There's other way to do the same thing, for example the Porsche Macan splits the pack in two when connected to a 400V charger, so it'll actually like it's charging two batteries at half the current each

    Obviously it's better to use an 800V charger, but it makes the best of what you get

    While an 800V motor, controller and charger would cost more than a 400V version, it's hard to imagine there's that big a enough cost difference to matter. Particularly when Kia is already making those motors for other EVs

    I wonder are they buying in the components from a vendor instead of manufacturing them

    Otherwise I just can't wrap my head around it 🤷‍♂️

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Cost is what I'm going with, assuming lower size/power 400v motor is cheaper, factoring in cooling apparatus and warranty uncertainty.

    Marketing material for EV6 and Ioniq5 was VTL omg microwave a pie! Charge from 10 to 80% in 12 minutes. They don't need that charge speed for non flagship car so I guess margin is their focus.

    Oh I was so used to 56kW charging with Niro I'd blow my load getting 100kW never mind 130.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    This shows how charging curve can be just as important as the peak rate.

    You see the actual claimed charging time on the EV3 is 10 to 80 percent in 31 mins.

    With the 81 kW pack this requires an average charging rate of 109.7 over the whole session.

    Suggesting an extremely flat charging curve up to 80 percent.

    Worth looking at Nissan Ariya charging tests because the real life Ariya charging tests align really well with what Kia are claiming in both peak charge rate and charge times.

    The big Ariya pack is only 7 kwh more than the long range EV3 in usable capacity terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭John arse


    I think it's gorgeous - compared to it's ugly sister the EV5, just my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    I think it is the better looker of the 2 as well. Just waiting to see pricing now, which will be interesting considering KIA have just dropped the price of the Niro EV by about €4.5k to around €38.5k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭John arse


    You don't want to hazard a guess by any chance? 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭John arse


    Dropped ev6 price too to make way for new facelift model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,712 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Looks like order books are opening first of August in the UK and prices start at £33K.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ffocused


    UK pricing is broadly in line with Niro EV, apart from 58kw version which is a bit less.

    My guess is we will get 2 trims Earth approx €40k and GT Line approx €45k both with 81kw battery and heat pump after grants.

    https://www.kia.com/uk/new-cars/ev3/pricing/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭kave2


    When will EV3 be available here? Any info on pricing? I



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    I see kia UK already have them on their configurator. They also have the refreshed EV6.

    I'm hoping myself that kia ireland get their finger out soon as I'm interested in changing soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭padjocollins


    https://youtu.be/Lu7qbFWf6i0?si=WtiNcPsKvd1y287f



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Exiled Rebel


    It'll sell like hot cakes if as your man claims it has real world range of 560km.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Evilcamper


    Just got a call from the dealer 4 models being released in Ireland with the earth 1,2,3,and GT line. Price for GT line is 49k and the lowest price was somewhere in the mid 38k post grant but pre VRT relief. 0% financing as well. I think proper pricing and spec will be released this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,248 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Available online now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭Miscreant




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 rdewit83


    Go to Car Configurator (can't post links yet, go to the main Kia website and click on Configurator on the top right) and click on the EV3 (in the middle somewhere when looking at the website using a laptop/desktop).

    Kind of disappointed with the top Irish spec, unless it's wrong. As far as I can see what's missing is (compared to the GT Line in other countries, like the UK):

    • Harmon kardon sound system
    • 360 Surround view monitor
    • Relaxation seats
    • Ventilated seats
    • Memory seats

    Again, this could just be an error on the Irish website, guess I'll have to contact a dealer to find out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭MarkN


    EV3 - landing page is the link, I did try link it specifically to the EV3 but you can go into it from this link.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    Good value if those items are included but poor value against the competition if they are left out. They've messed about with the Sorent PHEV as well, gone up in price but now no 360 cameras or bose system either, again making it poor value in an increasingly competitive segment.

    Strange tactics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Thanks for that @MarkNM. I noticed that the Earth 3 spec has a standard heat pump whereas the GT Line doesn't... bit of a weird omission on the more expensive car. If it is correct, then I think the Earth 3 might be the one to go for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 rdewit83


    So just got a confirmation from Kia Ireland that the GT Line is missing the above, and also doesn't have a heat pump. Seems like a poor option so, at least the EV3 can be removed from the shortlist now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Evilcamper


    I just got the dealer telling me that the GT line does have a heat pump but might not have the 360 degree monitor as they are apparently linked to the sound system (sounds a bit crazy to me to link the two but apparently the Sorento and all other Kias are the same) so a bit confused but will find out Friday. TBH the camera and heat pump (if true) is the biggest loss for me, my mother has a niro EV 4 and we never used the additional seat options anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 rdewit83


    I noticed the heat pump is down as optional on the Earth 3 spec if you look at the full feature list, but let's hope it comes as standard on the GT Line then. Even my 2019 Kona EV (that had **** all in terms of options) has a heat pump, shouldn't really be selling EVs without them in this climate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭derekreilly


    ***Press Release*** Kia Ireland announce EV3 pricing

    • The Kia EV3 will arrive in Ireland next month with prices starting from €36,790
    • Available in three trims including Earth 2, Earth 3 and GT-Line
    • Featuring an 81.4kWh battery and AER range of up 605km; Earth 2 models also come with a 58.3kWh battery choice
    • Breakthrough in thermal management technology gives EV3 battery efficiency and charging time edge over rivals, even in harsh conditions
    • EV3 will be available with 0% finance for 251, starting from €186 per month

    October 8th, 2024 – Kia has today revealed full pricing and specification for the eagerly anticipated EV3, the company’s dedicated compact EV SUV. With its combination of bold design, innovative technology, and groundbreaking features the EV3 sets a new standard in the compact EV SUV sector. Drawing on Kia’s advanced technology and customer-focused values of the brand’s larger, multi-award-winning EV9, the EV3 offers a unique, immersive experience and enhances customers’ expectations of what is possible in the segment. The EV3 will arrive in Ireland this November with prices starting from €36,790. EV3 will be available in three trims including Earth 2, Earth 3 and GT-line. Featuring an 81.4kWh battery and AER range of up 605km; Earth 2 models also come with a 58.3kWh battery choice featuring an AER range of 436km. The EV3’s battery is also equipped with a liquid cooling system, which is used during charging to optimise battery thermal management and enhance charging speeds enabling charging from 10 to 80 percent capacity in 29 minutes. EV3 will be available with 0% finance for 251 and is available from a monthly price of just €186 per month.The Earth 2 trim is available from €36,790 with the 58.3kwh battery, or €40,350 with 81.4 kWh battery and standard specification includes 17” alloy wheels, dual 12.3” display screens, LED headlights, Heated front seats & steering wheel, Wireless phone charging and android auto/ apple car play. Earth 3 is available exclusively with the 81.4kwh battery from €42,840 and features include 19” alloy wheels, Vegan leather seats, Power adjustable front seats and blind-spot collision avoidance. The range topping GT-line is available from €47,190 and adds GT-line styling, Vehicle-2-Load capabilities, Power adjustable sunroof and a Smart power tailgate.Speaking today, Managing Director of Kia Ireland Ronan Flood commented ““The EV3 features groundbreaking design and an industry-leading electric drivetrain. Coupled with its overall practicality and class leading interior spaciousness, we expect strong sales volumes for EV3 in 251. I would encourage anyone in the market for an EV to take a test drive in this car when it arrives in dealerships next month.”Full pricing for the Kia EV3 is as follows;

    Earth 2 58.3 kWh 436KM €36,790

    Earth 2 81.4kWh 605km €40,350

    Earth 3 81.4kWh 560km €42,840

    GT Line 81.4kWh 560km €47,190

    Kia Ireland will offer the EV3 in seven body colors – Clear white, Snow white metallic, Ivory silver, Shale grey, Frost blue, Black pearl and Aventurine green which is exclusive to the new EV3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Oh God, not another boring crap SUV……..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Interesting that only the GT-Line has the V2L function. Most of the videos I watched on YouTube seemed to hint that it was across the range.

    The KIA Ireland configurator needs to be updated properly as well. Some confusing info in there stating Heat Pump as standard on the Earth3 spec but then in the full configuration it says Optional.

    I'm still interested in it as a replacement to my Kia Soul 64 though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Maybe they all have the V2L functionality but only the GT-Line comes with the adapter ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    did kia fire all their designers, ev7 and now ev 3 just awful looking boxes.



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