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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    "Red Wave November 4: The Revenge"

    We've seen these insubstantial proclamations before, 4 election cycles in a row, they've failed to materialize. And in fact one of the chiefly cited reasons in the last midterm cycle (and most of the special elections) since the ending of Roe v Wade has been an outsized participation in voting from Women - go figure. So far, MAGA is 1 to 3 on election wins since 2016.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The only one who literally did anything with a sink was that clown Elon Musk as he paid 44B for Twitter so he could turn it in to a 9B company less than 2 years later.

    Another hero of the US conservative right. They have a kind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ah to be fair, some of that was foreign Qatari and Saudi money, and they weren't expecting a financial return on their investment, they are hoping to influence an election. I wouldn't put it past the banks either, who in the long run probably see Trump's proposed tax cuts for the oligarchy as better for their bottom line.

    https://wapo.st/3BsZlTa

    Here’s who helped Elon Musk buy Twitter

    Who pulls the financial strings at Twitter? These are Musk’s backers

    WaPo has the receipts. Free link.

    Now: if Trump fails the election AND Elon tanks the platform, I'm sure most of his backers are going to be looking for fingers to cut off, 'literally.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,598 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Trump doesnt need an extra 7m votes, you know that.

    He just needs to win enough swing states, it will probably come down to 500k votes or even less.

    He will increase his vote among blacks and latinos.

    Trump leads on all the key issues, Inflation, Immigration, the funding of the war, Economy, Energy…

    Republican registrations are up across the country, and mail in voting security and voting security has been increased in alot of states with Republican governors, the Democrats wont get away with the same antics this time round.

    The Democrats cant rely on Twitter to do their dirty work for them this time either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Its just a bigger project. What does authority event mean? The highest authority in the land is probably the leading global scientists, that kind of authority?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Well sure but I fall at the premise before we even get to the substance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    what like when Trump organized an autocoup attempt on Twitter?

    He still needs the votes. If you’re saying he will have even fewer votes in 2024 than 2020 Harris has nothing to worry about. What good would it be if he won a swing state like North Carolina but then lost Texas because he decided he didn’t need those millions of votes? Aside from that he runs into the same problem he had with his first term: without a popular majority he had no political mandate. Congress isn’t going to go along with the whims of a “day one dictator” without a mandate of the people. It would be ‘literal’ suicide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Proof that republican registrations are coming up?

    And what antics, this is more conspiracy nonsense.

    No one can rely on Twitter for anything, even though it’s now an echo chamber for racist morons, and Elon Musk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,595 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Arguably the highest authority in the land is the Supreme Court. Many of whom had graduated from college before the internet had been invented.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I think this is a major part of why Trump chickened out of his 60 minutes interview,

    And 60 minutes don't hold punches, like Lena Khan's interview last week was still even-handed in criticizing her and pointing out where they felt she was contradicted eg. by the courts.

    2 weeks ago they aired this 13 minute piece about January 6th, and it is utterly damning about Trump and what happened that day, as well as the fact that Trump still doubles down on this stuff, including claiming that the Jan 6 convicts and felons that he incited to carry out the last ditch effort of his autocoup attempt, are "hostages" and "patriots" and continuing his vow to pardon them. Trump would doubtless be held to account for all this by 60 minutes in a sit-down interview. As they point out, Trump also continues to lie about the fact that people died during and over this - in August he said "nobody was killed on January 6th" which is completely and utterly false on its face, completely erasing acknowledgement that Ashli Babbitt was shot trying to find and do harm to Speaker Pelosi and other members of Congress, never mind the officer and 3 Trump supporters who died in relation to the event.

    Regardless of the outcome of the vote, it's apparent the mere promise of these pardons if Trump retakes power will embolden right wing extremism starting with the voting, and the counting of votes, and the electoral count, even up to the inauguration of Kamala Harris. January 6 is the primary reason why Kamala Harris has received the overwhelming endorsement of national security experts, Republican and otherwise. We can expect a repeat of what happened in 2020, and more.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Largely positive statistics for Harris - Massively improved Favourability rating , both her and Waltz have net positive scores whereas Trump and Vance are heavily underwater.

    Harris ahead Nationally and across the swing states and the gap on who is favoured on the Economy has narrowed significantly - Trump leading by 4 points now where it was solidly a double digit lead a few weeks ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And I still think the issue will be swung by abortion rights.

    Vermont GOP House candidate Mark Coester was completely frozen up about responding to a question relating to abortion rights on a radio debate with his opponent.

    He completely ends up dodging the question, consumes a lot of dead air, and eventually stating it is a "non issue" since Vermont codified abortion rights into its State constitution.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/burlington/comments/1fu75e7/im_as_speechless_as_he_is/

    The issue with that answer though is, he's running for a federal lawmaking position, and federal law holds Supremacy over state laws. If Coester and other GOP are looking to retake Congress to pass a federal abortion ban, Vermont's state constitutional amendment won't matter a jot. And he had no answer for the underlying protection of the right, and I think most Republicans don't either. Vance has pushed for a federal abortion ban himself, Trump supported a 20 week federal ban when he was in office, there is no reason to believe he wouldn't similarly support a ban in a 2nd term.

    People can say 'it's the economy stupid' as much as they want but again, having a child is not free, and the cost of raising children is outpacing inflation, so the issue is hardly decoupled from the other. I continue to be amused that polls suggest Trump is better on the economy, but it doesn't seem that all factors considered that is really the outcome voters would receive between the 2 choices. Whether they understand that or not is another story, but I still firmly believe outsized participation by women will decide this election, and weightily by grounds of their individual freedoms.

    Ultimately when pressed to answer the question from a voter, Sam, on whether he is pro-choice, he refused to give any answer, let dead air hang, and the moderator was forced to move on. The topic of women's rights terrifies the GOP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Just to add some additional colour to this information, note the trends when Trump entered and exited office, and the subsequent arrival of the Biden-Harris administration.

    Screenshot_20241002-175120.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And I'd say that's a pretty tenuous effort to attribute causation. The reality is that if Russia had pursued an invasion of Ukraine while Trump was president, he would likely have not provided any support to Ukraine particularly since his presidency included an impeachment over trying to extort Zelensky. Allowing such an invasion would have resulted in large scale genocide.

    If he's to be elected in November, he will give Putin whatever territories he wishes and Russia will be allowed to Russify those territories. Worth remembering that Putin wanted Trump to win in 2020 and wants him to win in 2024.

    Now I expect that as per previous posters, you will simply ignore the genocidal intent of Putin. Maybe you even buy into the claim that Putin had the right to invade Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    Can you provide some evidence that because of Trump, Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine ?... Other than our serial liar saying it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,013 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump forget the old adage: "Correlation does not imply causation.".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    With this logic, you could blame Eamonn deValera for the deaths in WW2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,835 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    In your opinion, would all the key issues include or exclude abortion? While the debate was on between Vance and Walz, Trump posted an all capitals message on Truth Social about abortion as follows:

    “EVERYONE KNOWS I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A FEDERAL ABORTION BAN, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WOULD, IN FACT, VETO IT, BECAUSE IT IS UP TO THE STATES TO DECIDE BASED ON THE WILL OF THEIR VOTERS (THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!), “LIKE RONALD REAGAN BEFORE ME, I FULLY SUPPORT THE THREE EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST, AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS RADICAL POSITION OF LATE TERM ABORTION LIKE, AS AN EXAMPLE, IN THE 7TH, 8TH, OR 9TH MONTH OR, IN CASE THERE IS ANY QUESTION, THE POSSIBILITY OF EXECUTION OF THE BABY AFTER BIRTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!”

    It's not the first time that Trump has used the same or very similar words about abortion, including the part with the possibility of execution of the baby after birth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,231 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah there’s certainly positive news there- if the “young” vote get off their asses it will also help as they seem more favourable towards Harris - not at all certain they will though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Link to 165 pages of redacted motion filed by Jack Smith.... I'm not gonna provide a synopsis 😁

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stand by for Trump supporters saying Kamala Harris rang Smith and specifically asked that it be released now. And Jack went and used Hunter Biden's laptop to print it and send it to the Judge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Surprise…

    Also this afternoon, 3 women have come forward with romance scandals with RFK Jr. this year alone. That's not good news for MAGA, he now highlight's the movements issue with cheating on their wives.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,557 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    all of the news is bad for Trump. But the swing states have narrowed again in the polls. It’s insane

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,557 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Az and Ga are leaning more red and Pa has narrowed to less than 1%.

    538 model gives Harris a 55% chance of winning. It was 60% last week. What does Trump have to do to lose moderate voters?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Won't make the slightest bit of difference. People have to stop believing that MAGA clowns have any kind of principles that they aren't willing to abandon at a moments notice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Reckon he never paid Epstein for the introduction and sorting out work visa etc., Epstein would not have liked being pushed around by someone like Trump given he was in the blackmail game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,013 ✭✭✭✭briany


    That's another one of those things that's a feature rather than a bug. In MAGALand, to cheat on one's wife is a sign of masculinity, strength, confidence and virility. Just too much man to be tied to one woman. A man who votes for a Democrat can be assured that his wife's boyfriend votes Republican etc. etc. etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,520 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Dodgy toupees and fake tans from there's something about Mary also seem to be signs of masculinity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,013 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I think MAGA knows as well as anyone how odd Trump looks with the fake tan and the hair that defies the laws of geometry, but Trump's very look causes indignation and outrage among his political opponents and MAGA really enjoys that.



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