Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I'm chuckling here that a serious political commenter needs the format of the 60 Minutes interview explained to them.

what’s confusing about the question? It’s directly related to what Trump and Vance have stated.

Do you acknowledge that the time you say he had to “fact check the moderators” that he was lying?

Just goes to show that Trump and his cohort are so prone to lying all the time that they are utterly shitting themselves over people checking facts.

I think it's important not to underestimate the "f**K those guys" vote, which I guess would be in category 3 in your list

As I've mentioned before, entire revolutions have carried the day simply on the promise that they'll put someone different in charge

A more recent example would be Labour winning by a massive landslide in the UK. While I don't doubt that the Tories have systematically ruined the country, it's probably safe to say that Labour won by such a landslide largely from people using their votes to give the middle finger to the Tories

I think it was the same thing in both 2016 and to some degree in 2020. People were so fed up of the establishment that they voted an outsider like Trump into power. Similarly in 2020 a lot of people were so fed up of him that they were mobilised to kick him out

I don't know if it's the same group of people flipping votes or if one group of people stayed home that day

The reason I call it spite is that for many within that group it reflects a sense of blame against the government for their problems. That's sometimes justified, but rather than working within the system to demand change, for example by banging on the door of a local representative, they're willing to vote for someone who is demonstrably worse simply because they aren't the person in charge

I suspect this is another example of the shortcomings of US democracy. In other countries you can spoil your vote deliberately as a protest if you don't particularly like any of the candidates, but in the US that just helps one of two parties get into power

They didn't try to bury the Hunter Biden laptop story, they couldn't verify the source of the information at the time. And as for an anti-Trump bias, fact-checking is not an anti-Trump bias.

Most, if not all Presidential candidates have done a 60 Minutes interview in the run-up to the election for about 50 years or so, or at least been invited for an interview. Trump's own spokesperson says one of the reasons Trump won't do it is because they want to fact check him, which is exactly what a news organisation should do.

Do you think it's concerning that a candidate for President won't do an interview where he knows he'll be questioned further if he lies? That's a "trap" in your opinion?

A self made man who pulled himself up from poverty and didnt sleep his way to the top like many others.

There's no need to insult Melania like that.

I don't know if it's the same group of people flipping votes or if one group of people stayed home that day

I've said before that I reckon the amount of people who change their votes in US politics is probably at most 1 in ten but might be less than 1 in 20. The 2 party system is just so entrenched there.

I absolutely think that the dial shifts mostly by people staying at home so that even if it's 130M people voting in 2 successive elections, it could swing from a 50 seat electoral college majority in either direction purely because of who came out this time and who didn't rather than who changed their mind.

But the narrative we always hear afterwards is 'The American people want/choose/decided' which is rarely the case I expect.

Folks!

Remember the narrative after the first/only debate was that Trump crushed it.

Then, when it became apparent that whose who lived in the real world saw it as a disaster, the narrative changed to "the moderators were on her side"

Then it was "she had an ear piece!".

Then it was "why won't she debate trump on Fox"

Now we are at the stage where Trump won't go on Fox.. but goddamn it, he's right not to.

The mental gymnastics must be very tiring.

Can you get more sexist? She's been hugely successful as both a politician and prosecutor. A relationship with Willie Brown nearly 30 years ago did not lead to her success as a protector, it did not result in her being elected to the Senate and it didn't result in her becoming VP or the Presidential nominee.

Also risky move talking about self made men given the fact Trump's wealth originated from a massive inheritance and he's committed fraud numerous times to exaggerate that wealth.

I guess it's logical that Trump fans are happy to engage in blatant sexism.