Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Great article by Robert Reich explaining just why Trump is doing what he’s doing -I totally agree as I’ve previously mentioned that MAGA’s strategy of monopolising the media airwaves daily with rubbish helps to drown out Harris and gives her less air time and listening space with voters- something some posters here found hard to agree with.

Extraordinarily, this could be down to “the devil you know” - and that would certainly be a very bad reflection of America in general - but hey, right now it could be the reality - Harris needs to work hard over the next few weeks to look and sound presidential and capable - it’s amazing how close this is but we are where we are

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/01/trump-gaining-on-harris-polls-theories

I'd argue two of the four stand out as unhinged and uniquely dreadful. (I know you can't have 2 things that are unique but anyhoo)

The Trump approach to debating.....

Maybe you should watch it and form your own opinions and share them with us? Rather than assuming stuff and cheaply attempting to wind people up?

Everything I've heard is neither will move the dial that much. So it boils down to Trump being absolutely shite in his debate if you're considering it from debate performance. 😂

The VP can't do much unless the President keels over one day with a massive heart attack, which when you are 78 with the diet of a teenager, is not beyond the realm of possibility.

I have heard the same. I will watch it later when I get a chance. I suspect Walz's 'I'm just dumb' routine may not be what the American electorate wants in a VP.

He did a hell of a lot better than I would have given him credit for that’s for sure.

Not a great night for the Dems - they needed a much more positive and definitive win outcome -while Walz didn’t do much wrong, I felt he came across hesitant in the early stages - Vance definately felt the stronger candidate performance wise. IF any voters out there were trying to decide still on who to vote for, I think the Republicans may have made any gains that were up for grabs

What is this 60 minutes interview that Trump is too scared to do?

Yeah I've rewatched some of the clips from last night and I've changed my opinion a bit. Honestly I think neither candidate did too badly. Walz was a bit hesitating at first and had a few gaffes/waffley answers and Vance was slick and composed from the start.

It would have been nice to see Walz hammer Vance/Trump a bit harder on his abortion/IVF/School shooting stance. But it didn't really seem like that was the vibe in the room. There was a surprising aura of friendliness and agreement between both the candidates and I wonder did Walz just read the room and decide that being too hostile would make him look like a bit of a d*ck.

The second half Walz was much stronger and Vance was caught very obviously lying by him a few times.

All in all I'd have been happy to call it a draw until the end.But then Vance very clearly could not answer whether or not Trump had lost the election and Walz caught him out badly on it. That seems to be the clip doing the rounds at the moment. And it will probably be what is remembered most from the debate. Along with Vances mic being turned off while arguing with the moderators(never a good look).

Anyway we'll see later what script is being handed to our centrist friends later. I imagine they'll be here to hammer Walz on the Tiananmen Square answer(which was a bit awkward but honestly a non issue) and his gaffe on knowing "school shooters"(everyone knew he meant school shooter victims).

It’s much more simple than that- a second debate with Harris will only benefit Harris and Trump knows that - why would he put himself into that position so close to the election ?

Vance is coming across very well I have to admit. Much better than I expected.

Well you may have been misled by the cohort on here who think Vance is a moron.

He has a degree from Yale, was a corporate lawyer, a military journalist, venture capitalist, and a best selling author.

Thats not the cv of a moron.

A self made man who pulled himself up from poverty and didnt sleep his way to the top like many others.

Warned and 1 day forum ban applied

The 60 Minutes interviews are separate interviews with each candidate, not a debate between them. They would have been filmed and aired separately. So as per Trump's own campaign spokesperson, the reason Trump isn't agreeing to an interview is because they want to factcheck him during the interview (and likewise, they will have agreed with Harris to factcheck her during her interview).