Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

The original poster's claimed Trump voters are  racist ,homophobes & Xenophobes ,

So if we go buy 2020 where he got 47 % of the popular vote (74 MIllion) ,that is around half of the voters ,

Harris needs a catchy line to whoop up the crowds. Something that appeals to their patriotism, their future and can be spun easily. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you…

"And with that, well will have a strong America Today, America Tomorrow, America Forever!!!"

All she has to do is finish every speech with that, and people will lap it up. Let it become her signature, that's whta she's offering the American people. Get the staffers to start shouting the shorthand At At Af to the chant of U S A. Hell mix it up, At At Af, U S A, At At Af, U S A.

Could easily take on MAGA in the baseball cap department as well, easy to put AtAtAf. on a cap. Or go full whack and just put AAA, start saying a triple AAA president for a triple AAA country. And **** sells well when it's catchy.

There's her slogan if she wants it. I'll let her have it.

Hes nut case i'lll give you that but its hard to say if he's all of the above

Didn't he marry two different women not born in the US so can't be that fear full of foreign people

I'm not saying he isn't the above but what moments cement that he is 100% for you ,

Do you forget current President Joseph Biden warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.

In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”

So is everyone who voted for Joe racist ?

So are we going from 50% of the popular votes in 2020 Election being racist to 100%

Or do racist comments only matter for Republicans

No, we're not doing any of those things, because it is total nonsense.

Didn't take long for the mask to slip there did it.

Your previous nonsense about xenophobia having being utterly discredited, the gish gallop begins and you have now moved onto both sides whataboutery, and desperaate weak whataboutery at that.

In one case, you are having to dig up debatable comments from 1977! In each of those cases, they have been superseded by Biden's actions and words. Including serving as VP to an African-American and choosing a women of mixed race as his VP.

You're comparing that with Trump inciting racial hated with scaremongering about pets being eaten, about immigrants "poisoning the blood of the nation". With wanting to deport legal immigrants - what colour do you think those targets will be? So those are the moment that "cement it".

When Trump posts racist memes, do any of those faces have similar colour to the women he married? Well?

Utterly false equivalences.

So its ok for Biden (multiply times) once he apologises ,

Byrd was a recruiter & a leader of a chapter, far from a good man ,

See the come back of but Trumps MORE racist doesn't wash , the point is form the very being remains there all the same as each other,

Joe Biden's Timeline of Racial Comments and Actions

• From 1971 to 1974, Biden's legal residence had a deed barring ownership by African Americans.
• In 1974, Biden made an analogy of himself as a 29 year old in the Senate to being a "token black."
• In 1975, Biden asked if "the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child?"
• In 1977, Biden said that busing would cause his children to grow up in "a racial jungle."
• In 1977, Biden voted against Black Justice Department nominees specifically over his opposition to busing.
• In 1977, Biden said he asked to join the Senate Judiciary Committee specifically to lead the charge against busing.
• In 1979, Biden voted to allow racially segregated private schools to keep their tax exempt status.
• In 1981, Biden said George Wallace was "right about some things."
• In 1984, Biden used the word "boy" to refer to Jesse Jackson.
• In 1985, Biden made a favorable comparison between segregationist Senator John Stennis and Confederate General Stonewall Jackson.
• In 1987, Biden "sought to appeal to white voters" by touting an award he received from George Wallace in 1973 where he praised Biden as "one of the outstanding young politicians in America."
• During his 1988 campaign, Biden falsely claimed he was part of the civil rights movement, saying he "marched" in his "youth."
• In 2006, Biden said, "you cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."
• In his 2007 book, Promises To Keep, Biden admitted that, as a young person, he had "no real relationships with Black people."
• In 2007, Biden called then-Sen. Barack Obama "the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."
• In 2010, Biden delivered a 22-minute eulogy, the longest speech, at Senator Robert Byrd's (D-WV) memorial service, calling the former KKK member a "friend," "mentor," and "guide."
• In 2016, Biden praised segregationist Senator John Stennis as a "friend" and an "honorable" man.
• In 2019, Biden recalled the era when "he was able to get along with segregationist senators."
• In 2019, Biden boasted that segregationist Senator James Eastland called him son, not boy.
• In 2019, Biden said the Obama administration went "into the hood" of Detroit to recruit minorities.
• In 2019, Biden claimed a major problem Black communities face is illiteracy, saying Black "parents can't read or write themselves," leaving Black attendees "shocked and frustrated."
• In 2019, Biden said that "poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."
• In 2020, Biden suggested some people were able to quarantine during Covid because "some black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf."

Its fine he apologised ,

Remember i don't support Trump ( far form it) all im saying is its funny how no one holds equal standards for there own side ,

More gish gallop, same tired argument, same fallible basis.

"Clearly, I am not Joe Biden, and I am certainly not Donald Trump. And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country. One who believes in what is possible, one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people. I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses, which is why I have a plan. Let's talk about our plans. And, and let's compare the plans. I have a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction, to pursue their ambitions, their innovation, their ideas, their hard work. I have a plan. $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life. To help you in that most critical stage of your child's development. I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering help with down payment of $25,000, down payment assistance for first-time home buyers. That's the kind of conversation I believe, David, that people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name-calling. Let's turn the page and move forward." - Kamala Harris

There no argument
The thread does not hold both sides to the same standard,

When your comparing racist action & comments & saying one is less the the other you've have already lost

No when you are having to dig up debateable comments, some of them from the 1970s - and made false equivalences between them with inflammatory race baiting from Trump's recent campaigns - then in your words "you've already lost".

You are just giving a free pass to racists to spew inflammatory racist drivel.

And not giving Biden credit for moving with the times and demonstrating by his actions, policies and words that he is not a racist.

Oh we can't criticise racist vomit from Trump today because something something Biden said something racially insensitive in the 1970s!

Absolutely morally bankrupt nonsense.

Expiry dates? Come back to us when you can tell the difference between racially insensitive comments from half a century ago and inflammatory hate driven racism.

"Immigrants are poisoning the blood of our nation" is Nazi esque language from Trump, offensive even back then.

Come back to us when you can tell the difference between a man like Biden, whose actions and policies when he stood in 2020 show him working to help resolve racial issues in the US…

and someone like Trump who spews racist vomit and engages in race baiting and pushes racist policies right here right now.

In relation to Robert Byrd, he was viewed as a reformed figure and got praised by civil groups when he died as well. It's a pretty silly thing to attack him on and pretty disingenuous. But sure you know better than the NAACP.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/164967-naacp-mourns-byrds-death/

Well newsflash, it is 2024 and it is Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump.
So you have your "someone who does neither" - Kamala Harris.

And even if it was Biden v Trump, the choice would be between someone espousing Democratic policies, working to address racial issues in US society, tackling the legacy of historic racism towards minorities… and an inflammatory race baiter Donald Trump.

I'd personally prefer voters who can tell the difference between the two and instead of digging up irrelevent comments from the 1970s ask themselves who would be better for racial issues and minorities if elected. There can be no question - that would be Biden \ Harris or a similar Democrat.