Amazon WFH Policy

Digital signatures.

Also if an employee needs a printer to print / scan / sign documents, it is the employer who should provide them with it.

People can demand what they want. Whether their demands are met is another thing. Some people are in positions that it's in the companies interest to meet the demands.

I was just disagreeing with you that people can't demand things. Of course they can. You seem to agree anyway.

Not sure what a business case for employee demands would look like tbh. More a personal case?

We’ve definitely seen the best days of WFH fulltime behind us now- 2-3 days mandatory in office will be standard fare. I know of a few Irish large Irish companies struggling to get people into the office even a few times a month - but I predict even they will turn up the heat - it’s always better to be seen in the office voluntary a couple of days a week rather than waiting on a 4-5 day mandatory order - that should be the thinking of all good manages right now - get your entire team into the office at least once a week - it may keep senior management “happy” - if you don’t , then expect a non negotiable demand for many more days in the office. Companies follow each other like sheep - WFH good yesterday - bad today

digital signatures are useful but there are loads of scenarios where they dont work.

What large irish companies are you talking about?

What happens if people don't comply? Would the company be able to let them go?

Yes. Disciplinary action for being AWOL

Yeah. But what Amazon are hoping for is the easier option of people just moving to somewhere with hybrid hours. Cuts down on staff, of which many tech companies scaled up too much and saves them money. Rather than properly paying to get rid of them.

A great bunch of lads is our Amazon.

The reason we are inching to 5 days back in the office is because companies are coming to the realization that hybrid is bollix.

It was always bollix, companies trying to show that they were progressive and employees pretending that they were happy that post lockdown they had a bit of flexibility.

But it just upsets routines and work flows.

You start out Monday at home, then you have to up sticks on Tuesday, back home Wednesday, gone again Thursday and home Friday, or whatever.

Every location change takes a little bit of adjustment, not much, almost a micro adjustment, but enough to make you less productive than if you were in the same location.

100% WFH or 100% in office were always better than hybrid.

The best hybrid offering would have been a week in three weeks at home, thus the disruption is less, but this idea of certain days in , certain days home was just arbitrary.

So now companies are realizing this and because it's easier to bring everyone back than to allow or deny WFH on a individual basis they are getting everyone back.

Completely disagree with this. Have been on a hybrid model for a few years now, 3 days per week in the office the same for everyone. Zero adjustment required to WFH on the same days you WFH every single week. I don't like the office environment, open plan offices are too noisy, distracting, and frankly pretty overwhelming at times. I think a lot of people who have never worked for a large company would be shocked at the working environment, a lot of the time it's akin to working in the middle of a shopping mall. At the same time I appreciate that there are some benefits from being around your colleagues face to face each week, its better for relationship building and when highly collaborative work needs to be done.

I organise my week so that tasks that require deeper focus are done on WFH days where possible so that I can get in the zone and get through them efficiently.

A hybrid model where you can choose when you go makes no sense to me though, better to have everyone on the same routine so that you can plan accordingly for best days to have team meetings etc.

I organise my week so that tasks that require deeper focus are done on WFH days where possible so that I can get in the zone and get through them efficiently.

But the only reason you have to organize the week and do these this deeper focus tasks as you call them on certain days is because your company has arbitrarily decided that you have to go into a office environment you don't like on certain days.

Why not let you stay WFH all the time and you could do those tasks any day of the week.

Equally anyone who preforms better in the office can go to the office every day.

I realise this may not apply to most folks who WFH but one of the main arguments I have against going into the office now as well is the lack of facilities in it. I've 5 monitors including an ultrawide screen so I'm very capable of solving multiple problems at once and I can tackle issues far more effectively than I can with my tiny laptop screen and inevitably only half the monitors in the office are working. Ironically as well, when in the office and I need to join a call, I found myself unable to find an available room in the office to join said call. I have a dedicated office at home so that's never a problem there.

Stipends were given to set up remote offices and like some, I invested more of my own money as well to make myself more effective. The result is a far superior set up at home to anything I'm going to have in an office

Im curious if many people in tech jobs in Dublin around COVID times ended up buying houses in the west of Ireland?

It was a thing during COVID, was in the newspapers as a trend that estate agents were seeing. People seemed to think that 5 days WFH were here forever. Even 2 or 3 days of commuting from west Clare to Dublin would be a huge drag.

Also a poster mentioned that when they go into the office 1 day a week or month, they spend the day chatting to people. I've seen that in my own workplace, because people haven't seen that person in ages and end up approaching them most of the day for a chat. Doesn't happen when you turn up most days, you're left alone to do your work.