Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

It really wouldn't require much digging. The current left-most general traffic lane gets new roadmarkings to indicate it as a bus lane, the current bus lane gets adjusted to accommodate the existing number of parking spaces and bus stops (plus a loading bay near Tesco) and the existing parking spaces get paved/planted.

It's not going to happen any time soon but it wouldn't be difficult or particularly costly to do.

On a separate note more generally, there are other threads for discussing bike rental systems and the like.

In typical fashion they've changed the traffic light sequence and made a complete balls of it. Lucky if 3/4 cars get through from Fairview strand now. They did the same with the Griffith avenue/Drumcondra road intersection after they finished the work there.

Every time they touch an intersection they make it worse. Every. Single. Time.

I can't recall it being any better for me as a cyclist, than previously, to be honest. And it's a junction I use frequently.

By car, I cut down to Gracepark Road, onto Ormond Road, and then back up Drumcondra Road. Greater distance, but saves me a lot of time queuing in traffic.

And it'll get you nowhere.

Folks, I was traveling into the city yesterday on the new bike path I tried to over take a cyclist but he debatably did not let me pass. I have a big DING DONG bell on my bike I got in the Netherlands that's fairly loud I use to let other cyclist know I am passing them, but the guy debatably kept swerving right every time I tried to pass him cutting me up forcing me to hold back, he was going half my speed and causing a tail back of other cyclists behind me.

I know this path is narrower that should be but if you kept left there is enough space for a another cyclist to pass on the right is what I thought, I always keep left so others can pass.

What's your thoughts on this? do other cyclists feel uncomfortable when you are being passed on the right and this was the reason this guy stopped me over taking him?

If it doesn't look like it will be easy to get past I just wait for an opportunity to get on the road and go around them that way.

Someone mentioned here that the cycle lanes that are popping up dotted around the place are for nervous cyclists, families etc. so the design of cycle lanes isn't about getting you from A to B in the quickest or shortest time possible, apart from the fact that many are so narrow like the new Fairview section that they would not accommodate fast passing without it feeling like it's a close pass… On other cycle lanes where I would see a family out cycling then i'd move out onto the road.. save time and hassle..

Yes, and when on one way rural roads in the likes of Donegal, you slow down, you don't go right up behind the car in front and start beeping your horn. There is no excuse for bad behaviour and bad manners, whether that is cars or bicycles.

I often drive in the Wicklow Mountains, and I had slowed down to the point of nearly cutting out, to sit a distance behind cyclists until the road is clear enough. So cars face the same problems as you have outlined, whether on rural one way roads in Donegal or elsewhere. In Dublin City Centre, when I worked in Dublin 8, there were narrow roads which often delayed me, but patience and respect for other road-users is key. Cyclists that intimidate other cyclists out of their way are not showing that patience.

It should be fine to ring your bell to alert a rider to your presence, and desire to pass. But people in Ireland don't like having bells rung at them.

I call out that I'm going to pass on their right, say thanks as I pass, and give a wave. Which is normally fine. There are cyclists who can't hear much due to wearing headphones, which can be trickier.