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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,579 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    But he went home that evening and looked at the sheet and said WTF did I do. That is probably a weeks profit or more gone unless he can find a patsy to offload them to. Brother used to pick up a few weanling for me before LSL. Mostly black LM's. There was one buyers that used to buy a lot of them and my brother just said he was interested in a few. The dealer got indignant explaining it was an open market. So my brother drove the first few by 70 euro, the next few by 50-60 and the last of them by 30 over the normal mart prices. The dealer bought the 15-20 of them. The following week he approached my brother and asked him what lots he was interested in.

    @grass10 highlighted the cull cow part of the sale, they come in as singles and are generally shared, the heavy fat cows are shared out between 3-4 buyers at really large marts and 1-2 at smaller marts unless there is an online factory buyer. The rest then are shared between certain buyers that opt for certain cow type depending on weight, age and quality

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    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    I will leave with you then as you seem to be the man that knows about every mart in the country and don’t think anyone knows anything but you and the likes of Anto Meath and myself know nothing about marts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    It's an eye opener to be in the sellers box watching the auctioneer having to continuously focus back and forth between the screen and the lads around the ring. It must be mentally draining.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭leoch


    Grass10 it sounds like your the one that knows very little about marts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 nippy12


    I'd imagine it's hard to focus on a screen and then lads a few yards away ur eyes would be shot



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭DBK1


    My thoughts exactly. Anyone that thinks standing in the sellers box will get them a better price has a lot to learn about marts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭grass10


    Bass reeves fully understands how marts work most farmers have no understanding of how they work I buy hundreds of cattle every year in multiple marts all in person I use online as an information tool as part of my business lsl has saved me thousands in providing mart catalogues so for example if a mart has only a small catalogue I probably won't attend it has made purchasing animals very efficient people don't realise how much time and money you can waste going to a mart when their may be no animals to suit you, I rarely bid online as their are traders selling in most marts and some farmers selling and using their pals to poll up

    The reality now in most marts is the manager is the online bidder against the ring for cowsand heavy cattle with some factories and feedlot bidding online, calves in the spring are similar with the shippers just taking their turns against the mart manager and the farmer thinks because you have 20 lads standing around the ring that they are all bidding on each other that doesn't happen

    In cull cow sales it's common to have 3 different lads around the ring each getting their turns to buy and when the sale is done all those cows are put down to 1 buyer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    That's why different marts are better for selling different types of cattle in. If you take it locally here, Carnaross would be best for forward stores and beef cattle, particularly bullocks.. for some reason it has more buyers for these type of cattle and these are what they would get the most of.

    Ballyjamesduff would be a better mart to sell lighter store bullock or heifers in.. Also a better selection in if you are looking to buy cattle in.

    Delvin would be the better mart to sell (again buy) heifers in or cull dairy cows. Carnaross would be better for cull beef cows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    If you are in the sellers box, the auctioneer is less likely to knock the cattle down quickly to his buddies ringside. Maybe the online makes that more difficult for them to do, but I have seen it enough times in the past. I've seen auctioneers knock cattle down to themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭DBK1


    The online has eliminated the majority of that but it was never as widespread as does be made out either.

    The majority of animals sold in the mart end up the same way, the seller thinks the auctioneer is after giving them away to his dealer friends as they were definitely worth a lot more than what he got whereas the buyer thinks the auctioneer was taking phantom bids because he’s after having to pay way above what they were worth to buy them.

    I don’t sell in marts but do buy there. I know what I’m willing to pay for an animal and whether the seller is in the box or not makes no difference to what the animal is worth to me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jambon0104


    According to him, That's not the case and he is the man in the know, unfortunately we aren't, we are just assuming. And you know the phase to assume is to make a ass out of you and me.

    He's adamant by moving away from LSL he has buyers who refused to buy previously. I'd be interested to know how all platforms price, I'd imagine there's little difference in the 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Clare Marts post on Facebook;

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    Facebook



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    how do you cancel lsl subscription. There’s nothing on the app not even a phone no. or email.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Jb1989




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭tv3tg4


    contactus@lslauctions.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,579 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭alps


    Took cows to Kanturk today, their first day on Marteye.....the market was on fire..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I see Ennis Mart is flying it too on Martbids. You can't beat competition.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Have many other marts moved from LSL?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    farmers that sell cull cows in singles need their heads examined.its open season on them with the lads around the ring claiming them that they will take this one and you the next.

    I worked for yrs in a mart in tipp and one yr I had a lot of empty cows .put them in bunches as they were even enough.got plenty of digs the week after about me acting the bollix.just told them if they wanted them bad enough they just had to bid on them and stop complaining.

    It’s amazing how many lads still sell culls as singles if there’s nothing between them weight wise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭grass10


    The reason for single cows is it's the way it was traditionally done and the mart managers don't want to upset their dealer friends you did the right thing I cannot figure out why more lads don't do the same always remember most marts don't give a dam what you're animals make once you sell they get their commission



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭tanko


    Looks like the four Aurivo marts in the west have switched from LSL to MartBids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Sorry read it incorrectly

    Ya looks that way. Thought Balla was always MartBids



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jambon0104


    2 of the aurivos were already on Martbids. It's Ballymote and Mohill that moved. That's 11 marts moved in 2/3 weeks.

    4 of clare Marts, 2 of Aurivo, and on marteye Facebook page 5 have moved. By the way this trend is going there will be many more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭893bet


    LSL could go under, which is not good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    LSL emergency board meeting.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭jfh


    How does it compare to lsl? I have yet to sign up but will have to



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    It does seem more basic, but it works. The 'Sold' catalogue is good as it gives all the details of the lots sold , except for sellers name, video playback. It does work out 'Price per KG' which is handy.



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