Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Brilliant contribution.

Plenty of options to try, Automatic rejection of claim and a plane ticket home. Work with the UK government to prevent the abuse of the CTA. Much cheaper than building a wall.

But to be honest, given your stance on all of this I am surprised you are not out demanding we start running a free ferry service from the UK.

Why are there no threads on the sky being blue? If a thread on overpopulation is that important to you. You are more than welcome to start one.

The thread is about refugee policy,not general migration. Read the mod updates on the 1st post if you need further clarification.

If you wish to discuss Ireland's emigration patterns/problems, again, open a thread. Kindly stop conflating legal migration with asylum seeking/illegal economic migration.

Virtually no one (yes, there are a few loopers) blames migrants for Ireland's problems. Before you bring it up, yes we know migrants did not cause the housing crisis. If you are bringing multiples more people into the country than you are building houses this just makes it magnitudes worse.

Yes but again, what you're talking about here is a targeted concern about high immigration — not overpopulation. Regardless of annual numbers, the overall numbers show that there probably wouldn't be a hugely material difference in our population if immigrants and emigrants were swapped around.

What that tells you is that it's not a problem of overpopulation that we have. What we have is a problem of there being a historic and ongoing lack of impetus to modernise and improve our infrastructure and resources to deal with the inevitable population increase deriving from our emergence as a modern dynamic economy — not to mention an almost abject failure to make practical provision for the fact that we have rapidly changed from a very rural / agricultural society into an increasingly urbanised one.

Notwithstanding the fact that the influx of Ukrainian refugees was an unprecedented event (and one which — while we can argue all day as to what was the right way to approach it — we probably could not have completely avoided) — I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's realistic to expect we would not be experiencing the housing, services and cost of living issues of today if asylum seekers disappeared or we dramatically reduced migration (without that reduction causing problems of its own).

The whole system is a shambles. They're pawns in a money making scheme, the government don't care for anyone but themselves, neither born and bred citizens or those they claim we have international obligations towards.

Although, the women is obviously being coached by a ngo or do gooder, it is still isn't a good situation.

The Prime Time investigates crew will be all over this one - It will dominate the airwaves for weeks

There is the small chance however, that they'll just stick with the reporting of Gaza and ignore this domestic issue for some unknown reason

Will we have a - "extra.ie-A source of misinformation" - thread started because they did a hurty article about the Govt/FG?

extra.ie is quite obviously a hotbed of white supremacist neo-nazi sentiment - Who knew

I agree with you but also there's no excuse for how that gentleman speaks to them at the end, an absolute pig

We think he's the manager of the place, a horrible horrible individual

Thats because the ngo's are in their ears, filling them with every trick in the book.

No chef on hand lousy

No - we both know that would be impractical.

As for the discussion, the government is unwilling at least publicly to admit we have a problem with the numbers coming into the country and/or the way they are doing it.

Cant fix an issue if they refuse to admit there is one.

Apologies if I'm mixing you up with another poster.

But wasn't deportations your big thing? Weren't you the poster who said that ultimately we'll simply have to be able to deport large amounts of people?

Maybe you've changed your mind, fair enough.

So you presented the correct matching and valid documentation to the boarding agent so he did his job but"he couldn't care less"

So if you presented no passport at the boarding gate I am sure the agent there would care a lot more and you'd be denied boarding… or he would lose his job and his company fined.

I Would prefer a hard border with the North

Not much point giving it thought. There is no realistic sustainable future of this country where there is a hard border with the North. There isn't any way that the governments either side of the border have the appetite for miring themselves once more in the torturous issue of how you effectively police the border (to hard border standards). The most we will see are the odd checks and targeted interceptions.

What's more, the British have the stronger hand in this. There is no incentive for them to administer a hard border (and to co-fund that administration) as the easy movement of migrants from North to South is likely to be the more attractive flow path than South to North. There doesn't appear to be much incentive for the Northern executive and British state to plug that gap.

I've a solution for her and anyone else not happy with the conditions….

Feel free to get yourself to the airport, get on a plane, and go try a country that might be more to your liking. If they got themselves to Ireland from wherever, that should be an easy enough task.

No one is forcing her or anyone to stay. It's not a prison camp.

I said something related but it certainly wasn't my intention to claim anybody was part of a cohort with mental illness.

I don't believe discussing deportations is taboo I just recall @twinytwo as having made strong claims on the subject previously, but as I said, maybe it was a different poster.