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Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

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  • #3932
    advisemerite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭advisemerite


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470553#Comment_122470553

    LoL, no.Pete is not awesome and you're right he doesn't have it yet and never will.



  • #3933
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470609#Comment_122470609

    Hopefully the GOP splitting in 2.



  • #3934
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470609#Comment_122470609

    Disagree: I think Trump happened because in the aftermath of the global 2008 crash, nobody behind it was tried or punished for demolishing the American economy - and I think that resentment fermented into outright anti-establishment anger ... and in that anger a lot of forgotten Americans turned to a man who talked big about "draining the swamp", his opponent the largest and most hated figure within that establishment.

    Don't forget that Clinton's main opponent was Bernie Sanders so that exhausted anger was present along the left too - there was clearly a yearning for something different and some change. Trump seemed like a big Hail Mary Fúck You to the establishment, failing to spot how Trump was the establishment - maybe more than. Clinton ever was.



  • #3935
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470561#Comment_122470561

    As you can tell then all analogies are BS , so why would suggesting that peace terms not be preferable? Biden wasted 2 years now there is a chance of a change in direction in 25 , not sure about Harris Im guessing she will be weak on the world stage but would be funny to see a low IQ (for a President) too , didnt she try to defund the police and other crazy policies that she supported in the past , her adult beliefs were pure dumb , saying she is a "flip flopper" is a cover up in a way , her adult history is being stupid

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #3936
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470608#Comment_122470608

    So what does woke mean if you disagree ?

    It has a very specific meaning which I can tell you if you don't know.



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  • #3937
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470608#Comment_122470608

    It really is, to be "woke" is to be aware of important issues that may not be always obvious to everyone, and typically are of a social justice type in nature.

    That is, it is to be awake to the truth of what is going on. Not sure where it originally came from but would have originated in my view in the American Black community, and in my small mind, I always think of the Matrix and being awake to the real world, i.e. what is really going on.

    A bunch of Americans started associating it with liberals and tried to turn it into an insult without meaning for anyone who disagrees with them on policy. Using it when you do not understand it's true meaning is very much a badge of ignorance as it clearly labels you as being ignorant of at least that one thing, if not many other things. Sadly like many things that are used as an insult, once it gets common enough use, it also becomes a secondary meaning.

    I am not woke but I wish I was.



  • #3938
    FishOnABike
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470375#Comment_122470375

    How would a convicted felon has-been force anyone to negotiate?



  • #3939
    .Donegal.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Saw a tweet that Walz changed the Minnesota flag to resemble Somalia no wonder Omar loves him. The fruit loops never fail to make me laugh



  • #3940
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,902 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470532#Comment_122470532

    The overwhelming reason Kamala Harris is in the position she is in now is simply because she is a black woman. That was the primary requisite for Biden choosing his VP, he clearly stated this in advance of his pick.

    She jumped to the head of the queue because of gender politics.

    Harris was never viewed as being President material, if Biden had decided not to rerun last year, Harris would not have fared well in the primaries.

    Most people dont have an issue with a woman being President, if she is a capable politician with a good track record or potential.

    Hilary Clinton did not fit that criteria and neither does Harris, but the Democrats will spin it otherwise.

    Harris was an unmitigated disaster for the first 18 months of her office, falling out with so many of her staff and making so many gaffes.

    So much so that she was largely given nothing to do for the last 2 years.

    Now she is being heralded as this great shining beacon of hope.

    If the US elects a black woman it will be seen to be progressive is the message.

    Well its complete bullshit but as said earlier on here, the masses are stupid, and they will buy whats being sold, especially when aided by large sections of the media.



  • #3941
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470663#Comment_122470663

    Not really in the spirit of a discussion if you won't read replies to your posts, a very Trumpian tactic, just effectively ignore what was said if it is not something that you want to hear. Guess some posters post in good faith, and others do not. It is only 7 sentences, you can even ignore the last two as they don't add much.



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  • #3942
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470375#Comment_122470375

    Why reply to my post if you're just going to play dumb and ignore the questions asked?

    You know perfectly well what civil.wst and are completely unable to say how Trump will handle Ukraine. Either cone back with a more comprehensive answer and we continue. or come back with a dismissive respnce/personal attack and prove my point.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #3943
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • #3944
    crusd
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470674#Comment_122470674

    But somehow Donald does 😂



  • #3945
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470653#Comment_122470653

    Thanks for making my point.



  • #3946
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470633#Comment_122470633

    Trump has likely the lowest IQ of any modern president if I were to hazard a guess, Clinton was known to finish the times crossword under his desk while actively participating in meetings. Nixons state of the nation address, which he only read once due to late edits he read off by heart after the teleprompter cut out at the start. 7 minutes long I believe. George W was a decent fighter pilot (above average IQ) and an MBA from Harvard. JFK was reportedly one of the fastest readers ever and consumed books at a phenomenal pace. There are loads of stories like this about former presidents. I don't agree with many of them but none of them were low IQ. Trump on the other hand shows very low EQ, which is indicative that he has a lower IQ than the average person as well, the two typically being linked (although not always). He has collapsed supposedly impossible to fail businesses, has had to be bailed out before dragging others down as well. To be fair, no man has ever failed upwards with the adeptness of Trump, it is actually really impressive.



  • #3947
    silverharp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470712#Comment_122470712

    thats not really an argument its more of a "but look at him" , the point is Harris has a record of supporting dumb ideas. At best it would mean is that she only has to be a puppet that does what she is told which again would be funny to watch too, pure popcorn

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #3948
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470765#Comment_122470765

    Suppose that is possible but the defund the police wasn't what she said, my memory says it was funding could be put to be better use, including training in more successful forms of policing. I believe there are links earlier in the thread. I don't think that is stupid by any stretch of the imagination. It might appear that way to some in America who only see once type of response, basically more reactive policing, whereas her suggestion seemed to be for a move towards more proactive styles of policing. You still need the reactive policing to be available but the proactive policing would eventually lead to a lesser need for it, reduction in crime etc.



  • #3949
    LambshankRedemption
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469999#Comment_122469999

    If you watch the clips on YouTube, plenty of Americans can't point out America on a map.



  • #3950
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I also think the look at him is fair, it is Trump vs Harris, so when talking about one, it is fair to point out relative points with the other. I don't agree with her on everything but nothing is jumping out at me as having a low IQ. That old debating trick of regurgitating a sentence to get past it is annoying but I have seen that done by so many people over the years, its nothing more, nothing less, and before mobiles recording everything and youtube having everything easy to hand, you would never have noticed.



  • #3951
    LambshankRedemption
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470632#Comment_122470632

    Thats it exactly. He was not in politics when the crash happened. People thought his business acumen could be useful. There were some people thinking "Lets give Trump a shot, he can't be any worse than the current shower", some as you say it was a big "Eff you establishment!".

    Then, people saw what he was like and didn't vote for him in 2020.



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  • #3952
    Overheal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470633#Comment_122470633

    deflection to waffle now. Clearly you have no idea where your opinion about Trumps non existent negotiating skills will emanate from



  • #3953
    odyssey06
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470765#Comment_122470765

    The point is she doesn't, that's just MAGA propaganda for the dumb. Already discussed on the thread and discredited.

    So what is the the dumb idea? What Harris actually said, or the lies that MAGA Republicans spin about it? Well, they seemed to have duped you.

    You'll be asked to support your ridiculous claims with evidence and you'll deflect with drivel about popcorn or another question. It's all a joke to you and it shows in the nonsense you post.

    What Harris actually said was we need to redirect resources from the police to social programmes aimed at reducing crime long term. So what was the dumb idea and who was fooled by it?
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/harris-2020-redirect-resources-police/story?id=112378103

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3954
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Whoops, influencer who bought an interview from Trump with a cybertruck - and a Rolex- accidentally admits his questions were all prescreened and pre-vetted

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-trump-host-adin-ross-said-on-camera-he-got-questions-pre-approved-for-trump-interview/

    Trumps handlers are apparently engaged in elder abuse, trying to hide the extent of his cognitive decline.



  • #3955
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470811#Comment_122470811

    Yup. Had forgot to note that eternal fallacy that won't F Off: that good CEOs make good political leaders; the allure of Trumps myth of being this impeccable businessman no doubt also played into people's misplaced instincts that a hard nosed CEO would whip the country into shape.



  • #3956
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470766#Comment_122470766

    Are we back to the baseless name calling because ypu havent left the playground yet?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #3957
    For Forks Sake
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    That didn't take long 🤣

    https://twitter.com/RickLenzie/status/1820808955720785923?t=2MCu1-dbb0Dr16FEZVAW1A&s=19


  • #3958
    briany
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470766#Comment_122470766

    I think you might be a bit into this woman, and that's OK.



  • #3959
    silverharp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470790#Comment_122470790

    But without trying to misrepresent her, her essential argument was as I heard it once was that she could socially engineer police away by redirecting budgets. nice utopian "ideas" but not heard a logical path from how to get from A to B . I mean if her ideas were to demolish certain cities and start again or something radical it would have made waves but just a generic wanting to reduce police spending before proving any changes work doesnt seem very smart

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #3960
    briany
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470837#Comment_122470837

    I don't even know what 'kinky Kamala' is supposed to mean. Weird nickname.



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  • #3961
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470830#Comment_122470830

    Explain how one gets from A to B , its all magical ideas, if we do this then this will happen

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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