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Youths Rugby

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  • #2972
    realhorrorshow
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122393179#Comment_122393179

    I wonder if that's a third Gavin brother in the u17s.



  • #2973
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
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    Safe assumption. Believe he is backrow.



  • #2974
    realhorrorshow
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122397026#Comment_122397026

    Interesting, going to assume that's Max Flynn's brother also.



  • #2975
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122397112#Comment_122397112

    It is max flynns brother.



  • #2976
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2024/07/30/u18-mens-development-squad-named/



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  • #2977
    realhorrorshow
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122443846#Comment_122443846

    Is that roughly the pool of players that will likely make up the clubs & schools squad?



  • #2978
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122443881#Comment_122443881

    Yep.



  • #2979
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122443881#Comment_122443881

    Yeah though strongest will make Irish schools team bar any exiles who aren't picked on that side



  • #2980
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
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    LEINSTER RUGBY U-18s CLUBS SQUAD

    Forwards

    • Jack Byrne (Edenderry)
    • Oisin Carroll (Cill Dara)
    • Gerard Hallinan (Barnhall)
    • Anthony Ukagwu (Boyne) - u17
    • Ponamu Palazzetti (Suttonians)
    • Eoin O’Doherty (Wexford Wanderers)
    • Andrew Murray (Roscrea)
    • Michael Bolger(Suttonians)
    • Cian Butler (Portlaoise)
    • Conor Butler (Naas)
    • Simon Cantwell (Suttoninans)
    • Alex Carter (Navan)
    • Cian Crampton (Naas)
    • Darragh Culligan (Naas)
    • Joshua Emery (Arklow) - u17
    • James Kehoe (County Carlow)
    • Shane McGuigan (Longford)
    • Joshua Ward (Naas)
    • Jack Power (Barnhall) - u17
    • Cillian McElwee (Kilkenny) - u17

    Backs

    • James Curry (Wicklow)
    • Peadar Glennon (Mullingar)
    • Hayden Casey-Gray (Athy)
    • Jack Gorman (Edenderry)
    • Oisin Hayde (Portlaoise)
    • Oisin Kelly (Suttonians)
    • Chris Larn (Athy)
    • Ryan Murphy (Cill Dara)
    • Brynn Nolan (Tullow)
    • Daniel Norval (Wexford Wanderers)
    • Josh O’Keeffe (Newbridge)
    • Noah Oglesby (County Carlow)
    • Ryan Ovenden (Greystones)
    • Harry Watters (Ratoath)
    • David Soden (Ashbourne) - u17


  • #2981
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2024/10/25/ireland-u18-clubs-squad-named-for-two-match-series-against-italy/ 



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  • #2982
    Lost Ormond
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    Munster underage competitions now at knockout stage. Depensing on age grade its at quarter finals and semi final level

    CConnacht Leagurs at finals stage as well.



  • #2983
    Lost Ormond
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    under 18 finalists in munster known

    cup

    Old Christians v Bandon

    Development Cup

    Dungarvan v Midleton

    Plate

    Desmond v Crosshaven Cork Con

    Development Plate

    Old Crescent v Cashel-Clonmel

    Bowl

    Fermoy v Kanturk

    Development Bowl

    Ballincollig v St Marys-Thomond-Richmond

    16s. Few semi finals to be played

    Cup

    Clonakilty v Waterpark

    Development Cup

    Young Munster v Clonmel

    Plate

    Bandon v Midleton or Tralee

    Development Plate

    Dungarvan or Bruff v Waterpark 15s or Ennis 15s

    Bowl

    Youghal v Kilfeacle

    Development Bowl

    Nenagh 15s v Muskerry or Listowel

    14s all finals in thomond park on march 29th

    Cup

    Waterford City-Tramore v Bruff

    plate

    Newcastle West v Shannon

    Bowl

    UL Bohs or killarney v Dungarvan or thomond-richmond



  • #2984
    Lost Ormond
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    interpros for 18s clubs and 19s start next weekend



  • #2985
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/state-of-play-underage-interprovincial-championships/



  • #2986
    Lost Ormond
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    irish 18s clubs squad selected for italian game next month

    Aidan McGovern (Boyne RFC/St. Mary’s Diocesan School/Leinster Rugby)

    Alan Higgins (Skerries RFC/Skerries Community College/Leinster Rugby)

    Callum Tutty (Dungarvan RFC/Munster Rugby)

    Cathal Moffatt (Sligo RFC/Sligo Grammar/Connacht Rugby)

    Charles Shortall (Rugby Club Massy Essonne/IQ Rugby)

    Cian Hynes (Tuam RFC/St. Jarlath’s College/Connacht Rugby)

    Cillian McElwee (Kilkenny RFC/St. Kieran’s College Kilkenny/Leinster Rugby)

    Daniel Ward (Bantry Bay RFC/Munster Rugby)

    Dara Walsh (Corinthians RFC/Coláiste Éinde, Galway/Connacht Rugby)

    Darragh Glennon (Buccaneers RFC/Marist College, Athlone/Connacht Rugby)

    Dave Sargent (Tralee RFC/Munster Rugby)

    David Cron (DLSP RFC/St. Columba’s College/Leinster Rugby)

    Dylan Jenkins (Saracens/The Campion School/IQ Rugby)

    Franklin Onwuzulumba (Clondalkin RFC/Moyle Park College/Leinster Rugby)

    Harry Heagney (Clontarf RFC/Glenstal Abbey/Leinster Rugby)

    Jack Power (MU Barnhall RFC/Lucan Community College/Leinster Rugby)

    James Walls (Skerries RFC/Skerries Community College/Leinster Rugby)

    JJ Phillips (Galwegians RFC/Coláiste Iognáid, Galway/Connacht Rugby)

    Joshua O’Keefe (Newbridge RFC/Patricians Secondary School, Newbridge/Leinster Rugby)

    Oisín O’Donoghue (Buccaneers RFC/Marist College, Athlone/Connacht Rugby)

    Reuben Flynn (Corinthians RFC/Cistercian College, Roscrea/Connacht Rugby)

    Sam Harper (Omagh Accies RFC/Omagh Academy/Ulster Rugby)

    Tadg Young (Suttonians RFC/St. Fintan’s High School/Leinster Rugby)

    Tyrese Dunlop (Ballymena RFC/Ulster Rugby)

    Ireland U18 Clubs Management Team:

    Johne Murphy – Head Coach

    Brett Wilkinson – Assistant Coach

    Ricky Andrew – Assistant Coach

    Anthony McKibben – Team Manager

    James O’Sullivan – Athletic Development Coach

    Foster Horan – Team Physio

    Dr. Padraigh Sheeran – Team Doctor

    Dylan Holmes – Team Analyst

    Tom Nyham – Team Logistics.



  • #2987
    FtD v2
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    Ireland U18 Clubs v Italy U18

    15. Cian Hynes (Tuam RFC/St. Jarlath’s College/Connacht Rugby)
    14. Tadg Young (Clontarf RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    13. Oisin O’Donoghue (Buccaneers RFC/Marist College, Athlone/Connacht Rugby)
    12. Darragh Glennon (Buccaneers RFC/Marist College, Athlone/Connacht Rugby)
    11. Owen Egan (Buccaneers RFC/Marist College, Athlone/Connacht Rugby)
    10. Joshua O’Keeffe (Newbridge RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    9. Sam Harper (Omagh Academy/Ulster Rugby)

    1. Aiden McGovern (Boyne RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    2. Harry Heagney (Clontarf RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    3. Jack Power (MU Barnhall RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    4. Dara Walsh (Corinthians RFC/Colaiste Einde, Galway/Connacht Rugby)
    5. JJ Phillips (Galwegians RFC/Colaiste Iognaid, Galway/Connacht Rugby)
    6. Alan Higgins (Skerries RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    7. Reuben Flynn (Corinthians RFC/Cistercian College, Roscrea/Connacht Rugby) Captain
    8. Cillian McElwee (Kilkenny RFC/Leinster Rugby)

    Replacements:

    16. Calum Tutty (Dungarvan RFC/Munster Rugby)
    17. Dylan Jenkins (Saracens/The Campion School/IQ Rugby)
    18. Cathal Moffatt (Sligo RFC/Sligo Grammar/Connacht Rugby)
    19. Tyrese Dunlop (Ballymena RFC/Ulster Rugby)
    20. Charles Shortall (Rugby Club Massy Essonne/IQ Rugby)
    21. Daniel Ward (Bantry Bay RFC/Munster Rugby)
    22. James Walls (Skerries RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    23. David Cron (DLSP RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    24. Dave Sargent (Tralee RFC/Munster Rugby)Top

    This argument was posted on Leinsterfans, but I think it's a valid one:

    When we see the massive discrepancy at other Irish underage representative sides skewed towards Leinster (i.e. 21 out of 33 players in the Irish U20 training squad via Leinster pathways), the repeated refrain around this is that no one can be expected to compete with the Leinster schools system, but what is the excuse at this level?

    Munster have 0 players in the starting XV, and 3 total in the 23, Ulster 1 player in the starting XV and 2 in the 23, while Connacht have 8 players in the 23 (7 starting) and Leinster have 9 in the 23 and 7 starting. Couple of IQ guys.

    What's the rationale for the frankly awful contribution of players at this level?



  • #2988
    sydthebeat
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    has to be the level of coaching, at both club and area representative level. Im not familiar with connachts youths club league set up. Do they have an inter area representative league similar to Leinster?

    And these are club players, not schools, so youd expect a much great dispersal of player across the 4 provinces.

    Connacht are obviously doing things extremely well, in order for them to have the same amount of starters at u18 level as leinster, considering they have 23 clubs and leinster have 71 clubs.

    Ulster and munster, at 56 and 59 clubs respectively, have a hell of a lot of catching up to do.



  • #2989
    theVersatile
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    Munster is a weird one.

    We've probably had one of the most successful club pathways over the past while in producing guys that come onto senior contracts: JOD, Jack Daly, Edogbo X2, Butler, Coughlan, O'Riordan partially, Fineen Whycherley partially (think Josh might've been fully CCR from the get go), Tom Ahern, John Hodnett, Conor Ryan).

    Excluding other guys like Eoin O'Connor and Evan O'Gorman who joined the Academy but didn't progress any further (could be loads more of these that I'm missing).

    But our last two or three years of Youths squads have been absolutely awful. Don't know if it's a cyclical thing or whether the Munster underage structure has decided to move focus/funding/coaching away from the Clubs team, but the drop in quality at that level has been noticeable. It's a real worry for Cossie and Co I'd say.

    Think the Munster JCT CSP team was winning all around them last season so hopefully there'll be a better clubs uptake either next Summer or the following Summer again. (Either that or our schools have gone to the dogs too...)

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  • #2990
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123950957#Comment_123950957

    Hard to know why Munster have so few, tbey finished ahead of Connacht and Ulster in the youths interpros though obviously squads are picked on more than those games alone. FTD i think you are being unfair. Munster have made changes in their development systems and i really think it will be seen next year and in two years time when the players whove come through the munster clubs select set up are seen at interpro level, this side has been very strong past 2 years beating A schools all around them in group stage of junior schools cup which bodes well for interpros

    Will qualify this in that there is a couple of players playing in this team who play their rugby with Glenstal. starting hooker plays sct with glenstal



  • #2991
    FtD v2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123952417#Comment_123952417

    How exactly am I being unfair?

    I’ve never actually accepted the premise that is often thrown out there that Leinster’s significant out-production of players is predominantly attributable to money in the schools system, but it’s an argument that has been trotted out on here (and elsewhere) countless times over the years.

    But this selection (and this isn’t unusual at all over the past 5 years or so) absolutely can’t be attributed to that kind of advantage, especially when Connacht are so materially out performing Munster and Ulster.

    If Munster have made wholesale changes and we’ll see these ratios shift a bit over the next few years then I’m very glad to hear it, but it hasn’t come to pass yet.



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  • #2992
    salmocab
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    I don’t know what the other provinces do so not commenting on them although I assume there is something similar mostly. The regional cup in Leinster is very good at identifying lads from around 15 to go into camps (not generally residential) over summer holidays and at mid term etc. know a few kids gone through it boys and girls and the set up seems very slick. They get really good coaching along with other bits off field.
    the standard of club coaching is generally okay but can be hit and miss a bit based on the luck of the dad being competent. Although again Leinster give good help there, my lads actually have a Leinster officer coming up next week to work on a specific that we asked him about.



  • #2993
    Lost Ormond
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    Munster clubs 17s and 18s and the 19s played connacht in sportsground today



  • #2994
    Lost Ormond
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    irish 18s have 2 teams playing this weekend

    RELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS Team & Replacements (v Wales Under-18s, Uncapped Under-18 Men’s International Match, Castle Avenue, Clontarf FC, Sunday, March 22, kick-off 1pm):

    15. Finn Brennan (Kilkenny College/Leinster Rugby)
    14. Matthew McCarthy (St. Michael’s College/Leinster Rugby)
    13. Niall Fallon (Terenure College/Leinster Rugby)
    12. Ryan McCormack (Ardscoil Rís Limerick/Munster Rugby)
    11. Luke Kelly (Newbridge College/Leinster Rugby)
    10. Michael Kenny (Newbridge College/Leinster Rugby)
    9. Johnny Woods (Wesley College/Leinster Rugby)
    1. Herbie Boyle (St. Michael’s College/Leinster Rugby)
    2. Harry Heagney (Glenstal Abbey School/Clontarf FC/Munster Rugby)
    3. Alex Stinson (Royal School Armagh/Ulster Rugby)
    4. Dara Walsh (Coláiste Éinde/Galway Corinthians RFC/Connacht Rugby) (capt)
    5. Alex Ryan (Cistercian College Roscrea/Munster Rugby)
    6. Thibault Campbell (Wesley College/Leinster Rugby)
    7. Michael Smyth (Terenure College/Leinster Rugby)
    8. Xabi Scanlan (Castletroy College/Munster Rugby)

    Replacements:

    16. Brion Donagh (Newbridge College/Leinster Rugby)17. Lewis Robinson (Regent House School/Ulster Rugby)18. Rory O’Brien (Terenure College/Leinster Rugby)19. Tom Murray (Presentation Brothers College Cork/Munster Rugby)20. Hugh Keaney (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster Rugby)21. Rian MacFarlane O’Shea (Presentation Brothers College Cork/Munster Rugby)22. Lewis Lenihan (Bandon Grammar School/Munster Rugby)23. Alex Moloney (Presentation Brothers College Cork/Munster Rugby)24. Daniel Murphy (Presentation Brothers College Cork/Munster Rugby)

    IRELAND UNDER-18 SCHOOLS & CLUBS Team & Replacements (v Scotland Under-18s, Uncapped Under-18 Men’s International Match, Hive Stadium, Edinburgh, Sunday, March 22, kick-off 12.30pm):

    15. Johnny Martin (Newbridge College/Leinster Rugby)
    14. Brian A McCulloch (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster Rugby)
    13. Connor Patton (Royal Belfast Academical Institution/Ulster Rugby)
    12. Joshua Grant (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster Rugby)
    11. Dylan Gray (Royal Belfast Academical Institution/Ulster Rugby)
    10. Harrison McMahon (St. Michael’s College/Leinster Rugby)
    9. Tommy Smyth (Terenure College/Leinster Rugby)
    1. Dylan Jenkins (The Campion School/Saracens/IQ Rugby)
    2. Calum Tutty (St. Augustine’s College/Dungarvan RFC/Munster Rugby)
    3. Ryan Grant (Belvedere College/Leinster Rugby)
    4. Archie Graham (Dalriada School/Ulster Rugby)
    5. Phil Lynch (St. Michael’s College/Leinster Rugby)
    6. Cillian McElwee (St. Kieran’s College, Kilkenny/Kilkenny RFC/Leinster Rugby)
    7. Ruben Flynn (Cistercian College Roscrea/Galway Corinthians RFC/Connacht Rugby) (capt)
    8. Adam Brennan (Rugby Club Vannes/IQ Rugby)

    Replacements:

    16. Michael Landers (St. Munchin’s Colllege/Munster Rugby)17. Caden Smith (Glenstal Abbey School/Munster Rugby)18. Jack Power (Lucan Community College/MU Barnhall RFC/Leinster Rugby)19. JJ Phillips (Coláiste lognáid/Galwegians RFC/Connacht Rugby)20. Cian McClean (Royal Belfast Academical Institution/Ulster Rugby)21. Sam Harper (Omagh Academy/Omagh Accies RFC/Ulster Rugby)22. Ollie Worth (Clongowes Wood College/Ulster Rugby)23. Najim Jagana (Ardscoil Rís Limerick/Munster Rugby)24. Matthew McKenna (St. Michael’s College/Leinster Rugby)



  • #2995
    FtD v2
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    Worth noting that it’s without the Leinster Schools Cup finalists from Rock and Marys so have to figure another few from them would feature.

    Names I’ve seen or heard buzz about are:

    -Dylan Gray - RBAI winger

    -Tommy Smyth - Terenure 9

    -Ruben Flynn - Connacht flanker

    on the schools side:

    -Michael Smyth - Terenure flanker (older brother of Tommy Smyth)

    -Luke Kelly - Newbridge winger

    And obviously Herbie Boyle



  • #2996
    Lost Ormond
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    schools won 42-19

    clubs and schools won 34-33



  • #2997
    revth1990
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    decent results considering - PBC players eased in and benching and no Blackrock or Marys players.. as well as certain injuries



  • #2998
    Lost Ormond
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    Lot of youths leagues/cups at provincial final stage

    Munster has 3 tiers of Munster competition at under 14 16 and 18 with development competitions for those that dont make knock outs in each tier at 16 and 18s

    South Munster dont compete in the Munster 14s so its very much dominated by north munster sides.

    18s development plate young munster beat newport

    18s development cup final. old christians beat nenagh

    16s development plate killorglin beat waterford city

    16s development bowl old crescent beat fermoy

    14s competitions

    Thurles beat Garryowen in cup

    Bruff beat Charleville in Plate

    Young Munster beat Nenagh in Bowl

    Marys-Richmond-Thomond beat Bruff u13s in Shield



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