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The Bear (chef drama, not kids' show!) on Disney+

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I assume that's directed at my post. I said people who claim an episode is filler may not get the show.

    I have zero issue for people not liking an episode or agreeing with other posters but to say that the first episode was just filler was way wide of the mark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,114 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So is Carmy now out of his depression because he confronted that prick of a chef ?.

    It got a bit tiresome in this season I felt



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    S3E1 was a very refreshing break from the usual chaos of The Bear. I know the chaos is what makes this show what it is, but S3E2 dropped us right back into the usual format, whereas episode 1 was the complete opposite and so calm, while showing us why Carmy is Carmy.

    It was also pure food porn. Class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,336 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have watched this show on and off as the OH watches it. Haven't watched it religiously and missed plenty.

    I don't get it. To me it tries too hard, if that makes sense? The dialogue is too fast, too perfect, too scripted. The intense scenes between some of the characters are too ott, people wouldn't act like that in real life.

    Some of the attempts at humour are not on the money either.

    But hey, maybe it's me? It gets such great reviews so I must be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭steve_r


    A few thoughts on Season 3.

    I won't quote some of the posters but I do agree with a lot of what Johnny ultimate, Penn and others have said.

    • I felt the opener was a brave choice and I can see how it might not have worked for everyone. I liked it but I do feel that it was a little indulgent of a choice.
    • It is only a half season - despite what they call it.
    • There was too much Faks.
    • Napkins and Ice Chips were my highlights, and I also thought the scene with Richie and Frank in Voilet was very good.
    • I did think that there were quite a few episodes that seemed lighter than the others - whether it was shouting about the kitchen rules or panicking about the review, and I felt that the show was spinning it's wheels at this point, and perhaps if it was one proper season some of this would have been removed.
    • I wonder if I'm alone in finding Carmy the least interesting character of the show at this point. He did have some resolution in the final episode in terms of his relationship with his old boss, but outside of that I feel he is basically in the same position as at the end of season 2. This is in contrast to the likes of Syd, Richie, Nat etc who have developed/moved on/grown.

    My first reaction after finishing S3 was "This is how I felt after finishing S2", only to re-read the thread to see I had been a lot more positive on s2.

    S1 of this show is brilliant - great writing and great performances and a really satisfying conclusion. S2 is much the same, but without the same powerful ending. S3 is a little bit diminishing returns really, we still have the sharp writing and fantastic performances but the conclusion isn't particularly satisfying.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    I just finished season 3. I enjoyed it but it very clearly isn’t as good as season 2. There is a lack of plot driving characters forward in their growth, especially with Carmy, who as another poster notes is in essentially the same place at the end of S3. He hasn’t worked on himself in any way and it gets tiresome to watch after a while. I’d love to have seen more of him and Claire.

    It’s still a great show about the dignity of work and I very much enjoy the food porn and the fact that it’s a bit of a love letter to Chicago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Watching S3 and just watched Napkins. Perfect bit of TV. Great writing and acting...and to be fair a relief from the madness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    23 Emmy Nominations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭McFly85


    I’ll never understand why The Emmy’s categorise this as a comedy, whatever it is it certainly isn’t that!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Finally finished series 3. Episodes six to nine were very good, everything else was poor. A plodding, filler season, and a big disappointment after the highs of the previous two.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Starting to feel like the only reason more Faks other than Neil were introduced were because Richie started to grow as a person and they still needed to try justify it as being a comedy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    S3 didn't do it at all for me. For me, nothing really happened. It looked great and well acted but it was all just a bit meh for in my opinion. Shame as the first two seasons were incredible TV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,833 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The Tina flashback episode and the finale were really good but there was a lot of filler and some of the best characters last season like Richie and Marcus seem to have "completed their arc" and there wasn't anyone to fill that void.

    Also high end restaurant "problems and drama" is very cliché compared to the actual madness of The Beef.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,114 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    When did 'James' get so big ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,833 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya that shocked me too.

    Turns out White is only 5'7 which is a fair bit less than I thought.

    Edit: Sorry I was thinking about Will Poulter who is a lot taller than I thought. I now see you meant the band.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Remember when the search function on this site worked? Man I miss those days…

    Anyway, The Bear Season 4 coming 26th June. 10 episodes all releasing at once.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Binged the whole season with a few breaks here and there (I'm mostly laid up for the day).

    Thought it was a great season, much better than last. Not without its issues (spoilered below), but where last season essentially felt like watching the meal being cooked, this season is like eating it. A lot of payoffs and catharsis from what was set up last season.

    Unfortunately the season has the same issues that the last two seasons have had; most of the season involves one big issue where one discussion which could have solved everything never takes place because they keep getting interrupted (regularly, over a period of months), and just one pretty bad episode which stops everything in its tracks, in this case a Sidney-focused episode which has very little payoff and provides no new or relevant information or character development. I really like the actress and character, but that episode did absolutely nothing (edit: just read that that episode was written by the actors for Sidney and Marcus). Also, the literal giant countdown clock was really ridiculous.

    Post edited by Penn on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,833 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Pity it's a full drop. I thought the perfect solution was the way Disney dropped Andor in blocks of 3. Still gave a few breaks for people to digest and chat.

    See ye all in a few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,892 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Watched the first 3 last night. Very enjoyable thus far, acting is excellent but the choice of music throughout is outstanding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,939 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Also watched the first 3 last night, they've gotten better at peppering in the happiness, but I still couldn't imagine watching 8 episodes in a row, This show fights you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    Thought the first 3 episodes were top notch. Unfortunately the 4th with Sydney getting her hair done forced me to skip along with the slider bar, awful nothing added boredom. Hope there's better to come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,892 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I watched that one last night and really liked it! At its best, The Bear gives us insights in the the characters and this one was to show us just how much she is struggling with the decision she has to make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    For me there were two big issues with the episode; Firstly while it did show how much she was struggling with the decision, we already knew she was struggling with the decision, and she was still struggling with the decision at the end of the episode. The episode didn't really advance that in any way, bar meeting Shapiro at the site of the proposed restaurant. And secondly (and worst of all imo), it came right after a huge moment for Carmy at the end of the previous episode, where he finally meets back up with Claire, has some realisation that leads to him getting Pete to amend the contract Sydney still hadn't signed and which isn't revealed to us, and then this is the next episode where we get to see none of what comes after that. It felt like a huge shift in momentum for Carmy, and then we're led right into a brick wall with this episode.

    Perhaps I'm being too harsh on the episode because of that second reason. To be honest, the entire continuation of Sydney not signing the agreement even though the restaurant has been open for months just felt forced because surely that would have been done even before they opened and I fail to see how Uncle would have let them go without that, not to mention Pete amending the agreement but Sugar not being notified about that considering she's also a signatory to the agreement… They mention he couldn't tell Sugar due to client/attorney priviledge, however it's changing the ownership of the restaurant that she's signing on to be a co-owner of so she should have surely been legally notified of that.

    Sorry… that was just one persistent through-line of Season 3 & 4 which continuously rankled me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,015 ✭✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Romario11


    I agree on this. The Bear might be the biggest hit and miss show of recent times. It reaches great heights as a show about food and restaurants and the depth of modern culinary affairs, but at the same time is almost self indulgent and over the top on the ‘character insight’ at the expense of the drama and development of the story. Some of it is very hard to watch and I constantly get the feeling of it being over indulgent. I thought it left that behind after season 2. But after eps 4 and 5 of this season im not bothered to watch the rest now, having to wade through everyones feelings to get to the guts of the plot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I wouldn't go that far myself, as ultimately the characters' stories and evolution to me is more important that what actually happens to the restaurant or the literal ticking clock. I just felt that episode slowed things down too much for not enough of an evolution in the character's story.

    Sydney felt like she was in the same place at the end of the episode as she was in the beginning, and when you have an episode almost completely devoted to that one character struggling with a decision, to have no real movement in it (especially after we had just gotten something like that for Carmy at the end of the previous episode even though we didn't get to see what it was), just felt like really bad pacing for the series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Just finished episode 10 today. It was ok but felt a little bit of a dud to finish up on. Still a very enjoyable series and something I'll happily rewatch again from the start

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,232 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Felt like the season was building to something major happening so the final episode ( as well acted and written as it was) was a bit anticlimactic with how it finished.

    Still a very good season overall, the wedding episode was excellent and Sydney's episode was really good too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭moby2101


    Dreadful 4th season… so much navel gazing.
    How the hell is this getting renewed.



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