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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    I'm not jesus christ believe it or not!!

    You've been provided links to articles and data from the US.

    If you don't accept those sources then fair enough, but at least tell us what you will accept as proof, you are right, this isn't complicated!!!

    I am asking you again, do you think you are well informed? You post on here on the topic of US politics all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Wasting time talking about a debate, when the entire concept of government is being dismantled in front of our eyes. The Democrats need to be blasting anti-Project 2025 continuously from now til Nov. This is the end run for Christian Fundamentalists, if they're not defeated.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/06/elena-kagan-dissent-supreme-court-john-roberts-chevron-disaster.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    in hindsight Trump's comment about not understanding what Biden said and that he didnt think Biden understood either was the perfect shiv to the heart, it was like Trump was treating Biden like a child not an adult and the timing was perfect

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    A Gabbard-Harris rematch would be a fascinating turn of events.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,052 ✭✭✭political analyst


    I've heard her making speeches at conferences as Vice-President and I think she's no worse than her predecessors in both of the main US parties. At worst, she's bland - an American black female version of Keir Starmer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    She is a black woman who is articulate, bright, clean and nice looking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Whitmer would be a much stronger candidate than Harris, as would Bashear or Shapiro. Newsom has a massive amount of baggage, and being from CA would count against him elsewhere.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I didn’t ask you. I asked someone else to support their points. That’s how forums work. I want them to support their point or stop making them.

    Otherwise it’s loads of people posting nonsense

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    You asked for proof for points that are widely known and accepted.

    Proof was provided to you, in the form of articles and data from a different poster, which is how forums work.

    You then insisted on different proof.

    Now you only want proof from the poster who originally made the points.

    If I were you I'd think long and hard about what you think is nonsense. You are no where near as well informed as you seem to think you are!!!

    Anybody who was surprised by the performance of Biden last week should be asking themselves some hard questions right now, like a good start would be to ask yourself "how is it the posters that have the opposite view to me aren't remotely surprised by what we witnessed on Thursday last?" and take it from there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    he nailed Hillary with the “you would be in jail” comment… and he nailed Joe with the understand comment…



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    this is wild stuff. Really wild. None of what was posted is “widely accepted”

    A poster posted something, I asked them to prove it. You step in with a load of links, which are only tangential to the original assertions. I’d happily argue with them, if I wasn’t too busy waiting being bamboozled by your insults and dig at my level of informedness.

    Good luck with whatever crusade you’re on. I’ll wait for the other poster to respond.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Yet inflation was kept in check under Trumps presidency. The Russian State is far from bankrupt. Crime is at record levels with major stores closing down due to rampant invasions by criminals who will only get a slap on the wrist. Migrant Crisis in American cities that is turning minorities against the Dem's. Biden looked and is weak while Trump looked and is strong, that's what the voters saw in the debate!!


    1. Inflation wasn’t kept under check by Trump. His economic policies drove it. He was still riding the economic performance of Obama. He turned it into a mess Biden had to fix.

    2. The Russian state is in a shambles. Only China is keeping them on life support


    3. Crime is at record levels - yeah actually. It’s at an all time low. Or was last time I checked


    4. dems are losing support among minorities, yeah. But why is that anything related to an imaginary migrant crisis

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    What crusade do you think I'm on?

    I just provided the proof you asked for, which anyone was/is free to do.

    If you don't like being challenged then maybe you should reconsider posting on here. This is how forums work, anybody is free to reply to anyone.

    This is a topic that is going to become more relevant in the coming months, and you, as a regular poster on this topic, can expected to be challenged. Let's hope we see a more inclusive attitude to people with opposite opinions, as anyone who reads the threads related to this topic can see how people with opposite views are treated on here!!!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I love an opposite opinion. But what I love more is debate. This isn’t debate.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Ya of course you do…we can all see your posts you know that right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    does anyone think the Bidens just need the money?, a younger guy could retire and get millions in speaking fees, biden not so much

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    you can. Especially the poster I responded to, who I wanted to prove their point.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Never considered the idea of a former president Biden on the speaking circuit, thanks for the chuckle!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner




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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    nah. I’ll wait for someone to come along and support my points for me. I thought that’s how it works now

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Post edited by Sephiroth_dude on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Hmmm.....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    How is the border crisis "imaginary" exactly? Even Biden and the Democrats now admit something has to be done to stem the flow of people entering the country illegally. The mayor of New York said it's going to destroy the city, and several other mayors have said their cities are at breaking point because of it. It's not imaginary.

    As for inflation, ask the average American if they think it's coming down or is better now than under trump, and they'll say no. The cost of groceries, fuel, eating out and utilities are all at record highs. Telling them that actually they're wrong and the economy is great, which seems to be joe Bidens tactic, isn't really going to change that



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    is asking “the average American” a substitute for imperial evidence and a well supported argument.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    well, we’ve all seen him naked so he can’t be smeared.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Fuel is absolutely, unequivocally not at record highs.

    Groceries and eating out are essentially always at record highs unless there is a recession. Real wages in the US are higher than they were 4 years ago. Discretionary spending is higher. People across the board think the economy is bad while they personally think they are doing ok. The people are in fact wrong - how exactly you approach that I don't know because it's an exceptionally bizarre scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The average Americans are the ones who are voting so, yes. **** is ridiculously expensive and like it or not people blame the president for that. No amount of lecturing about how they're wrong actually is going to change anything. I think you meant "empirical" evidence but do you actually know what that means? There is plenty of empirical evidence that inflation and the cost of living is out of control. Yes, it's starting to come down a bit, but when the starting point is many multiples of what it was 5 years ago, it's still stupidly high.

    (Empirical: based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Well it must be imaginary in the minds of Republican lawmakers, so concerned were they about the issue they didn't go along with Biden's bipartisan bill after getting their orders from the rapist in chief.

    The Republicans don't give a damn about the border, or the country, it's just an excuse for them to racist dog whistle.

    So on the one side you have Democrats trying to work to responsibly deal with an issue, on the other hand you have a bunch of wreckers. Anybody who bases it as a reason to vote Republican - for any position, Congress or President is just showing themselves to be duped by Republican lies, or just a racist.

    So yes, the border 'crisis' is imaginary. That doesn't mean measures about immigration aren't needed.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Sorry, I shouldn't have said "record highs" about the fuel. It's still expensive at around $4 but it has been approaching $6 a gallon at times over the past few years so that's something. 2 takeout sandwiches came to almost $40 yesterday, just sandwiches, no drinks or sides. I found that shocking. It's stuff like that which makes people think more and more "basic" stuff is becoming unaffordable. If everyone's wrong, then Biden better start on doing something about this misconception rather than just saying they're stupid to think that, which isn't really working.



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