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F1 2024 - Round 11 - Austrian - Red Bull Ring

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    That Red Bull pit stop problem getting the rear wheel off - changed the entire race. Mad stuff.
    But Max extends his championship lead I guess so not all bad. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It was probably a track limits violation in fairness, he tried an overtake but locked up, wasn’t forced off track by Max - don’t know what the delay was.

    Contact was 100% on Max though, and I don’t think he was racing fair up to that point, there was definitely a couple of double movements on previous overtake attempts by Norris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Stupid racing and surprised at Max

    Both drivers will both be furious for different reasons



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    He seems to get a lot of criticism but Zak Brown has done an amazing job at the top of McClaren in the last few years. Not found wanting when tough decisions needed to be made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    right the coverage is going off now. Sky will be calling for max to be publicly executed and we’ll be hearing about this for the rest of the year



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Another bs driver of the day award to Norris. Max is correct that Norris was dive bombing all over the place, not for the last incident fair enough but he was too aggressive trying to get past on previous attempts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    If there’s more weekends like this I can see people turning against Verstappen pretty quickly. Defends way too aggressively, causes collisions and accepts no responsibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,781 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Aye it was clearly Verstappen's fault and needlessly so, Norris was going to cop a 5 sec penalty anyways so Max could have allowed him past and kept the gap under 5 secs. Rather than taking Norris out. Poor form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭mun1


    Incident all on max today, and deserved his penalty , but “defends too aggressively, causes collision… “ , really ?

    Don’t think he’s interested in your popularity contest, much like all the greats like Schumacher , senna etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Haven’t seen Max that petulant in a good while - reckon he knew that McLarens pace would have given Lando a chance to get a 5 second gap before the end of the race so was trying to keep him back at all costs.

    Lando was definitely over aggressive with his moves in turn 3 - I think that’s his frustration over the last couple of races coming out.



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Gwan outta that. 😂 So it’s ok to dive bomb down the inside forcing the other driver off while going off track yourself? Lando’s race craft is a little lacking when it comes to these kinds of battles. Yes Max made one mistake by coming to the left too much and caused the accident, gets a penalty fair and square. It’ll be water off a ducks back for him.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    So when Max does it it's OK but not for others?

    Plus he weaved and moved under braking a couple of times.

    He is the best driver for sure, but you should probably let go on this one.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 802 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    I do think decision making speed by the stewards needs to change. Norris flagged Max moving too late multiple times before the incident. There was also the track limits violations. It shouldn't take multiple laps for the stewards to decide these things…

    Piastri really ruing over the track limits yesterday!

    And Perez failing to get past a Haas say it all really.

    At least we might have a bit of a battle for the lead more regularly now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    I didn’t know Verstappen fans were so fragile, their egos can’t handle the criticism, they’re cracking up already. Wait til they see social media over the next day or two.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Let go of what? I’ve already said the contact was Max’s fault. Lando could’ve been smarter trying to get past is my point, too aggressive, silly dive bombs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Ultimate Gowlbag


    I'm surprised to see Max rattled in a race so easily,if this was a few weekends of that kind of pressure I'd get it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭mun1


    Nooooo!!! Not the social media !!!! How will anyone survive that🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭thefa


    My thoughts were the same. Tyre age would have given Norris a good shot at covering the 5 seconds if he got by quickly enough.

    Really interesting look into the psyches. Norris was launching the car at some of those turn 3 attempts and Verstappen was testing the limits of defending. I think Norris still lacks a bit of experience competing at the front but this season should do wonders for that.

    Didn’t enjoy all the shite on the radios. Reminiscent of 2021. Great ending to a race that I had almost given up on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    Drivers need to be told to shut it asking for penalty a bit like being booked in football if you suggest a player be booked!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Yeah, Landos divebombing was aggressive but really it’s a Max signature move - Max is just much better at it though!

    At the end of the day it was an exciting end to the race, after last season its brilliant to see regular fights at the front!



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Max has a history of aggressiveness and dive bombs. Was that OK ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Poor form from Max, and especially so in the immediate aftermath when he had a puncture and Lando tried to get through, he was driving him off the road to stay ahead (Max had no way of knowing that Lando also had a puncture).

    You would have thought that after 3 world championships he'd have been savvier, but looks like he'll revert to his 2021 behaviour if he's in a tight battle.

    Gutted that Oscar didn't get through at the end, but at least it'll be the only Tory victory this week...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Even looking at the analysis on Sky there it looks like Max chose to leave the track to keep first place on the lap where Lando charged down the inside - there was enough space between them for Max to stay on track but come out of the corner in second I think.

    Im a Max fan, he’s an unreal driver but today wasn’t great from him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭Longing


    Sky drooling at the mouth. Ant the dick and his analysis is british and Mclaren bias. Except for last move which we know Max got the 10 sec penalty for and rightly so. But when he was showing Max braking after the 100m board and Max lining the car up for turn 3. The clown saying moving under braking what a noob. Comical stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    Max's fault for taking Lando out by purposely not leaving enough room

    But...

    Lando purposely seeked revenge by turning hard into Max's car taking out the rear wheel.

    Both Max and Lando knew exactly what they were doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    2021 race threads were awful. The better/closer the racing, the worse the comments get. Here's hoping we don't have this sort of commentary for the rest of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,568 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    We either want close racing - and that is what you get today, no matter who it is between.

    Or we can have the start of the season again and let Max or Lando fly off in the distance.

    You've got to make your mind up. It is racing basically, they are pushing the limits all the time and that is what you get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,190 ✭✭✭This is it


    Yep. Hard, aggressive racing. One or the other overstepping slightly on a few occasions but, like you said, this is what you get.

    I'm a Ferrari fan so little skin in the game, all I want is a fight for first and not one driver racing off into the distance and winning championships at a canter*.

    *Unless it's LeClerc >.>



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    yep, and this is why I switched off. Jesus, next week will be unbearable

    Tally ho the Brits

    Go suck me banger



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