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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭political analyst


    But a dementia sufferer can't figure out anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,003 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    If, or when, Trump gets into power, you should be made remember these words.

    😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Packrat


    That's nonsense.

    Clearly youve never known someone well who has had it.

    Dementia sufferers symptoms and awareness can vary greatly within minutes hours and days.

    Many are well aware of their condition but can hide it by keeping conversations general in nature and non-specific.

    Some have moments and periods of almost total lucidity where they can plan and execute those plans as well as periods of confused partial lucidity, and periods of total illucidity.

    To say they can't figure out anything really shows no understanding of the condition you're trying to use to bolster a position.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Obama needs to have a talk with Joe….its over



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    most people believe confident liars, it’s why psychopaths are so effective/dangerous, they have a bid advantage over normal people…..lie constantly/no empathy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    looking like the word is out, Joe is our guy. Back him or shut up with the negativity…… yuk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The New York times editorial board have put out a piece calling on him to step aside. When the nyt are saying this, it's pretty serious

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4747052-ny-times-editorial-board-biden-drop-out/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


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    Turns out Joe is actually perfectly fine, it was just an off night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 BLFOTR


    It's over for Joe. You don't recover from something like that no matter how many teleprompters and script writers you engage. He'd a good run and his people hid him away long enough to get this far but eventually you just can't hide from what's happening to him anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    trump is simply too powerful for weak Joe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,643 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    The hardcore Biden fans are just as deluded as the hardcore Trump fans



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Spot on. That's how US ended up in the mess with the choice of these two as President.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Eh. I feel if someone can come back from being a rapist there is little you can do in American politics to truly bury yourself in one go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    https://x.com/joebiden/status/1806746426904379543?s=61&t=NqRxupSAX74qFf7TCyie5w

    Night and day only a day later …



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Nice to see him step up instead of trying to run for it. Credit where it is due.

    I've only seen bits of the debate but he's clearly in better shape than his opponent.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    The polls will be interesting over the next few weeks. Trump should be 20-30% ahead of Biden in the race based on physical capability alone. It is some indictment of his toxic level of Asshole-ism that he is neck and neck with Biden. He has all the advantages in terms of charisma and vitality and it is still a close race if it remains close over the next few weeks then Trump is the one who needs to ask serious questions of his strategy. But of course he won’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    I don't think Biden has what you would call hardcore supporters. It's just the opposing choice is so horrific, they will go all in for him come November. Although the undecideds have a much harder choice now than before the debate.

    The DNC should've told him 12 months ago, he wasn't going to be the candidate. But they should also have had a new batch of candidates ready to roll 12 months before that. It's appalling that the only person they considered strong enough within the entire party was a man in his 80s. I think there are people who could and should have stepped forward, such as Gavin Newsome, but didn't so they could have a clearer/ easier run in '28. Which I think is cowardice of the highest order. "Ask not what your country can do for you.."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Weak sauce both-sides.

    Biden had a poor night and there were discussions about replacing him on the ticket.

    Trump becomes a convicted felon multiple times over, is liable for sexual assault and god forbid any Republican criticise him, lest they be called a RINO and pilloried across MAGA. He comes out in favour or abortion! So does everyone else. He changes tack? So does everyone else. To the point where in 2020 the republican party didn't even have a manifesto. It was literally what came out of his mouth.

    There is a complete and distinct difference, and to say otherwise is either delusional or disingenuous.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,277 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Flood the zone.

    Trump does so many bad things that no one of them really sticks or stands out. It all becomes one big grey cloud of noise in the minds of the public. Nothing hangs around in the news cycle long enough for the public to remember it.

    Joe Biden tries to keep it so clean and uncontroversial that when he walks out to a debate where he sounds like he's dying and looks like he doesn't know where he is, it's going to be all anyone talks about when it comes to his campaign.

    It really seems like the Democrats are doing all they can to lose the November election.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Unfortunately, it is a tactic well suited to the social media age. Whenever he stokes outrage, he replaces it with another. The MAGA loons clap their hands like seals while people forget that this even happened:

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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭hometruths


    I've only seen bits of the debate but he's clearly in better shape than his opponent.

    You'll get no argument from me that Biden is clearly a better person in terms of decency and honesty than Trump, but claiming that he's clearly in better shape than Trump is the absurd height of delusion and denial that could possibly deliver another Trump presidency.

    It's madness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    that was the media, one of the many hoaxes, you posting that either says your tongue is in your cheek or you have been hypnotized by your news source, I have to lean to the second option because its more fun

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Biden should come straight out and address his frailty and mortality. He should emphasise the team he is bringing with him in his administration and what they represent and attack the Trump team and what they plan with project 2025 etc. He should talk on the level about the chances of him not making it to 2029 and emphasize that such an eventuality would not lead to chaos and that his team and administration are more than capable if anything happens to him. The real shocker from the debate is that the message beforehand was that everything was fine and then clearly that was not the case before our eyes. That what caused the jarring effect. If the democrats had been more upfront about Biden frailties beforehand then the impact of what we saw would have been much less.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Trump's has suggested that people injected bleach as a remedy for covid, forgotten how many world wars there were, confused Biden with Obama and was on about sharks last time I checked. Then there's:

    "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-sentence/

    Most of this is from over half a decade ago as well. He's clearly gotten worse since then. I'll take the gaffe-prone guy with his heart in the right over this mess any day.

    I know that this is not the Trump thread so I won't continue any further down the tangent. Feel free to disagree.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Correct it is the Biden thread, and in this thread you commented that based on the debate, Biden is clearly in better shape than Trump.

    I think that's delusional. We can agree to disagree.

    I take your point on Trumps many mad utterances eg bleach for covid. Which is exactly why I believe the only reason the presidential race is tight is because Biden is the candidate.

    The Dems need to ask themselves why in name of hell are we behind in some polls vs a convicted felon etc etc, we should be out of sight.

    Unfortunately as long as people are viewings Biden's debate performance and concluding he is still in better shape than Trump, the delusion is so high that the Dems will never work out exactly why they are not out of sight in this race.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 BLFOTR


    That piece just proves that Joe can't think for himself. Teleprompter's,good writers and speeches before dinner time aren't going to fool people anymore. He's been exposed now and if the democrats double down and back him it's going to be a disaster for us all. Biden needs replacing asap because right now there is too much at risk to continue as is.



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