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Electric, Hydrogen & Hybrid Electric Buses in Ireland

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    BTW Have the issues at Summerhill with charging at the weekends been sorted (or lessened)?

    I see lots of EW buses out on the 123 on the weekends now, so I assume they have fixed the issue or worked around it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭VG31


    I haven't been on the EWs much, but I noticed that the next stop screens often aren't working.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    The next stop screens are poorly implemented on them, versus how they are implemented on BE buses in Cork.

    When you leave a stop, the screens are basically blank until they get very close to the next stop and it only displays the next stop when there is the audio announcement!

    That is a really dumb setup and pretty useless to anyone upstairs.

    At the very least, it should display the next stop as soon as the doors close and you pull off from the current stop.

    But even better is the BE displays, which look to be the same physical display, but far better setup, they not only dislpay the next stop constantly, but also the next three stops and how many minutes you are too the stop. Very handy to give you time to prepare for the next stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭VG31


    The 2 or 3 times I've been on them the screens upstaris weren't working at all. One time it was blank and another time it just showed the manufacturer's logo.

    They're fairly large screens so it's definitely a poor use of space to only show the next stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Nevermind the fact that they have the green TFI logo in place, with a green background banner 🤦‍♂️😂 Almost impossible to see it!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,886 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I read a very interesting article about Wrightbus from the Autocar website this morning. They have opened up a factory in Bicester in England to begin a programme of converting their previous diesel bus fleet stock to electric vehicles. The retrofitting is currently being done for their Streetdeck buses at the moment. They are going to do the Gemini 2 fleet as the next batch of older stock to electric vehicles in the next while.

    The buses that eligible for this retrofit programme from Wrightbus have to be aged between 5 and 9 years old.

    They carry out the work of decarbonising the buses from diesel power to electric batteries in about three weeks. The decarbonisation process from Wrights gives the older vehicles an additional lifespan of 10 years once they have been converted to electric batteries. The electric batteries give a charging rate of 150kw.

    I'm not sure if the NTA would want to go through with this process of taking out a small number of buses at a time by shipping them over to England to carry out this work. Have they discussed anything with Wrights or the DoT about taking part in a retrofit programme for their current Wrightbus fleet stock within Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann & Go Ahead Ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 oliver_murray


    This looks brilliant, especially as the lifespan of the bus is increased. The hundreds and hundreds of SG's we have could be converted probably cheaper than buying new electric buses I'd say? but having new buses come and the old converted could benefit us in medium term



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭AX636


    Would Volvo not have a say in this as the SG is on a Volvo chassis the bodywork is only Wrightbus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    A refurbished and "re-engined" bus only having another ten years of lifespan is not great. This process isn't cheap.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭thomil


    I hope I’m not pulling this thread off-topic, but does anyone here know what the deal with those new hybrid buses in Cork is? It appears as if at least 2-3 of these well-rounded yokes are in operation on city bus routes, I’ve caught them twice on the 220 in recent weeks. Is this just to fill some gaps, or is a wider roll-out planned?

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    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭d51984


    They are ex Limerick and will be in Cork for the foreseeable, well when ever the Cork fleet goes electric anyway.

    Post edited by d51984 on

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,730 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    There will be a wider rollout.

    However it will need the new depot at Tivoli to come on stream for a significant expansion to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    I've also noticed there's now an ex Limerick VWL operating the 109b most days wouldn't like to be doing a journey that long on a city bus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭d51984


    I remember years ago, an ex Dublin bus RH on the Dublin to Limerick run. Arrived 2 hours late.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,730 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    I seriously doubt that anyone uses the 109b end to end, given that the 111 is there.

    Most people using it would be on it for 45-50 mins max, which is shorter than many city bus runs.

    They VWL is fine for shortish runs like that, for example they do Dundalk - Clogher Head - Drogheda every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭AX636


    They are getting transferred from Limerick to Cork since Limerick now have electric buses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Yep, I imagine this would only work for buses with their own chassis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,256 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Speaking of Cork, and somewhat O/T as well….

    Is there a Depot number for the services they run down there? Back in my days of using Dublin Bus, if there was an issue with a bus not showing or something else, you could just call Clontarf or Phibsboro or whatever and give out to the local controller who could then radio the driver.

    In Cork it seems to go to some generic callcentre number that has no info on the service/bus at all. Given the recently published practises of drivers being instructed to skip stops or buses not showing at all, that's not much use - probably by design!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭d51984


    I Think most, if not all city services in Cork are operated by Capwell depo. I could be wrong tho.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Capwell is currently the only depot in Cork, yes. A temporary depot in Tivoli is planned (planning application currently being sought). This will be required in advance of the bus connects rollout there, as currently Capwell is bursting at the seams!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭thomasj


    On one of the new electric buses on the 39a after 1am and the battery got down to 5% with warnings going off. Bus pulled in at Huntstown awaiting a replacement.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    The question would be had that bus been out all day or not? Are they doing topup charges in the depots at off peak times?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    According to tapatalk, it was EW98. Seemed to be out all day yesterday, going by bus times

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭AX636


    That should not of happened, the controller knows what percent the battery is on as does the driver, if I'm driving one and it gets to 15 percent I do call it in.

    BK 99% of the time they do go back to garage some do stay out aswel



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Yes, out running 16 hours is pretty excellent going for an EV bus IMO, I wouldn't expect one to be able to run more then that.

    Having them pop back into depot for topup when the battery reaches 15 to 20% is good practice. In this case it sounds like it was overlooked, probably just part of the learning process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,886 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Have the EW's been out for that length of time on other Dublin Bus routes or is it just a one off issue when encountering the low batteries on a particular route? I think having an EV bus out for a 16 hour shift on one route is a pretty good achievement. However why did the scheduler at the depot did not got the memo that the bus had a low battery from the driver in the first place? Did the depot staff in Phibsboro know that particular bus was out for that length of time already before it had encountered the issue with having the low battery before it went dead in Huntstown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,864 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    At a guess I'd say they forgot to plug it in, it happens and it happens regardless of fuel type. I recall one faithful night 5 years ago when a bus I was travelling on ran out of Diesel. To be fair we were only waiting about 10 minutes for the replacement bus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Bad accident today on Dame Street today involving an EW. Reports the driver lost control of the bus and ended up hitting a lamp post. Wondering if it's possible the accident could be due a fault with the bus.

    Strange for a driver to lose control of a bus on straight stretch in the city centre where a driver wouldn't be going particularly fast and wasn't at a bus stop either. I guess it'll all come out.

    Edit: read elsewhere the driver had a medical episode



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    unfortunately that was always the most likely explanation. Hope the driver is OK and whatever medical condition it is doesn't cause loss of licence.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Nolan's look to have a brand-new fully electric Wrights Electroliner working their Microsoft contract, alongside the electric Higer Steeds. Must say they seem to be expanding a good bit in recent years!



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