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150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The article is very good but you are right:-

    I wrote the following based on the headline, but in fairness to Terry Prone she pulls no punches, I was surprised it came from her : -

    The glamour at RTÉ faded as soon as they moved into the TV studios in Donnybrook. You can see from old archive photographs the original visual intent of the architect, a modern set of buildings purposefully built to house TV studios with a contemporary elegant entrance. The long corridors facing out on to Montrose house in the leafy Dublin suburbs. At some point however the sufficiency of the design was lost in the hands of RTÉ, as Wardrobe was dropped into a central area only to make it look messy. The same can be said of the Radio centre, who's lobby has had 1990s kitsch lobbed on to it with a lack of vision that the original minimalist lobby would suggest.

    Buildings that would invite big name stars, while showing the opulence of our old British colonial past, had turned into a rat infested delipidated set of studios, which RTÉ never cared to maintain.

    Surely this lack of maintenance of the RTÉ studios over the years should have shown the lack of management skills at the broadcaster.

    RTÉ, the media and our politicians are now fed up with the news that RTÉ isn't up to the job of even running a broadcaster let alone their own buildings in which their studios reside. The audience on the other hand are embarrassed by the broadcaster.

    Terry Prone might be right to consider RTÉ to be some kind of glamourous deity in the halcyon days of the 60s, but by the 70s and 80s it had dipped out of favour with audience, and cast a shadow on a bleak austere era, by the 90s nothing had changed and by the heady days of the Celtic Tiger management were now thinking they were working at the BBC, it was far from the BBC they were raised.

    Let management and staff at RTÉ look around a crumbling broadcaster, and consider that they forget the glamour and put on a pair of wellies and get to work.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Switched on radio, Paul McCartney mentioned. I left it at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Mario Rosenstock really revelling in this! You get the feeling he had Tubs number from Day1 but couldn't open his mouth or lampoon him too heavily. Tubs held the keys to the late late show guest list and Irish entertainers need that promotional opportunity. Now yesterday's man, he's getting both barrels. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    I wonder will Tubs mention how Taylor Swift is Irish now, and then swing it around to JFK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Commercial stations tend to be pretty ruthless if a presenter isn't bringing the numbers in, even more so if the listenership is down on the previous presenter, so I'd imagine his contract would have a clear break clause in it.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I'm starting to feel sorry for Ryan. 😔He must know he's not doing well at Virgin. 

    I don't think he does realise it. I know he has to keep up the hearty tones obviously, but I would say he thinks he is flying it. I really would.

    I have no sympathy for him. Greed was his downfall after all the years of being grossly overpaid for a job he was never suited to, in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    Sampling some of the 2nd and 3rd hour. The theme based on first records bought and band names. The 11:18 am link made for pretty slick radio - Getting a lightbulb for a sowing machine.

    Some redemption found at 11:28, a short introduction from Tubridy about the first record you may have bought - A link mostly engineered by the production team and a stark contrast to the usual mess.

    At 11:33 Ryan comes back and does his own thing - McDonald's? Seagulls going bonkers? Then going to Bath? and then his voice just dramatically increased in pitch and intensity, the link then just exploded like the Death Star at the end of Star Wars. Even playing Shaboozey's 'A Bar Song' (Tipsy) in between could not make up for the chaotic presentation.

    At 12:27 Coming out of 'Don't Stop Believin' led Ryan to announce "That was Journey" then angrily shouting JURNAY!! - possibly causing some listeners to experience a sudden jolt or possibly sending some into cardiac arrest whilst at the same time leading some to question the emotional health of the presenter.

    12:58 To wrap up - Kicking walls in Dublin

    Love Listening.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,883 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Getting a lightbulb for a sowing machine.

    beacuse it's radio that matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    RTE even out-Newscorp News UK. Lottie Ryan is gone after just a few weeks.

    https://www.thesun.ie/tv/13234006/lottie-ryan-axed-drivetime-show-the-2-jonnies/

    Wonder if News UK will be getting thoughts about Tubridy?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭yagan


    Isnt Lottie an employee and not a contractor now?

    Won't be surprised if 2fm will be the next under the axe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,228 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    That is one hell of a sub-headline: RTE has been accused of disrespecting the name of the late Gerry Ryan by badly treating his DJ daughter Lottie.

    "Entitled, defined in a single sentence"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There's a chap in London who would have jumped at the chance to replace her. It is a bit of a shock though.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭supereurope


    It seems that just like our friend Ryan, Lottie has been found out. I wonder if she has been making car ads on RTÉ grounds again? The sub-head now reads "RTE’s Gerry Ryan would ‘give bosses earful’ as ‘betrayed’ girl Lottie axed from new show and replaced with TikTok star" which sums up Lottie perfectly. She wasn't "betrayed", she was promoted beyond her abilities, solely because of who she is. All other things being equal, if she was Lottie Hogan, daughter of plumber Steve Hogan, we'd never have heard of her. Her entitled "My dad was a big star here so you owe me a living too" just proves that she's be nothing without her surname.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is RTE. There might be a sideways shift into management if she has some abilities in that area. It is certaintly a very different RTE from the Tubridy era-RTE. RTE does need to be seen to be doing something as the RTE licence fee issue hasn't been sorted out yet.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    An Empress without clothes, so to speak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Tork


    The question is why they should be facilitating her at all. Maybe they're stuck with her but other than that, I can't see why she's on RTE's books at all. Especially when the station is looking for voluntary redundancies.

    Gerry Ryan died 14 years ago last April. To put that into perspective, there is a large swathe of 2FM's current listeners who know very little about him. At best they might've heard him on the kitchen radio when they were growing up but that's the extent of their experience of him. Sadly for his family and for his fans, he's a long-gone relic of the past. He might as well be Din Joe as far as the younger generation are concerned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Probably a sense of guilt over Gerry Ryan's death. A bit like Gerry Ryan's teaboy, radio broadcasting doesn't seem to be her thing.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    HAs Lottie a famous agent? To get such a sub headline written?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Re: that new Tubs gift grub.

    It was pretty poor overall I thought, like most GGs for the last decade. Well past its sell by..

    But I do wonder how come such a huge name like Tubs never had any sketches about him over the 14yrs he was at the LLS?

    Had Mario no balls to slag him? How brave of him now to start taking digs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    Cannot say I am a fan of Lottie but Dan Healy has a lot to answer for. That guy has not got clue what he is at.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    She was previously NKM but parted ways when the Tubridy payments scandal emerged.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭hawley


    That episode of Gift Grub is two years old. I stopped listening to it fifteen years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭Red Fred


    Bryan loved and misses Top of the Pops but yet can't be sure what night it was broadcast on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Field east


    maybe the probation period was used - one can let go an employee during the probation period without giving any reason



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    Came across as being a little unsympathetic of Celine Dion who is suffering from stiff person syndrome. Q102 then carried a commercial that is supposed to be for LMFM. Discussed Italian perceptions of crimes against the preparation and eating of pasta for which he believes he is innocent for the most part. Couldn't say the same about crimes committed against radio.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Tbf, it did move around the schedules a bit in its later years. From Thursdays to Fridays and then to Sundays.

    I've been watching the TOTP repeats on BBC4 every Friday for the last few years (once they hit the mid-80s), they're now up to April 1996, so the move to Friday nights, now considered the beginning of the end for TOTP, is just around the corner.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    And now Donncha O'Callaghan's exit from 2fm is coming soon...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Sinking ship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    Dan is going to be a busy man between now and when he takes his holidays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,991 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Should just turn 2Fm over to RTE Gold crew and be done with it!

    That's a lot of vacancies on RTE Radio… good job Tubs is tied up nicely in London.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The currently podcast got a mention in todays Irish Indo and might cause some people to tune in, so far it has 255 view, but over all on YouTube it is a slow burner for all of these episodes. Brian Cox's episode has faired the worst, with Doireann's not gaining much traction after the first week.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    With all that is happening at 2fm, I have no doubt that Ryan will release a series of puff pieces shortly as it looks like he is drifting towards insignificance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    If there's a 2FM left for him after his holidays. Would not be surprised to see some people in the entertainment media claim that Tubridy should get a job there. That rate of loss of talent is unsustainable.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭yagan


    I can imagine how off putting 2fm can be for advertisers when there's plenty of alternatives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    I can see him hiring Jedward if this jumping ship trend continues!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    A really good radio PD or consultant would take the current exodus of these presenters at 2fm and use it as an opportunity to try something new, address the radio station's overall programming and sound as opposed to replacing like with like. Even if they were to keep all of those names that have exited, 2fm's audience share is not good. They can't really go down the AC/MOR/RTE Gold road as although not legally, there is an expectation as a public service broadcaster that 2fm should cater to a young audience whilst RTE Radio 1 provides for an older one. It's how effectively and efficiently 2fm can target that audience. Are they capable of real change? Do they want to change? And if so, do they have the right people in place to that and do it successfully? Unfortunately from my point of view I don't think so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Tork


    Is being a youth station really a public service in 2024? For many years it was, simply because it was the only legal pop music station around. That demographic is well catered for now, nationally. Once you move past the 15-35 age bracket or whatever it is these days, you're into a varied market. Somebody who's 40 or 45 is unlikely to share the same musical tastes as a 55 or a 60 year old, let alone older. Yet Radio 1 is supposed to keep all these people happy? The kids who grew up with 2FM in its heyday aren't well catered for by commercial radio now, especially outside of the cities. Would that not be a public service, seeing as nobody else seems to want them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    Although I personally don't agree, some may argue that folks who were generally catered for by 2fm in it's heyday are now serviced by RTE Gold. But in my opinion RTE Gold's playlist maybe misinterpreted as being comprehensive compared to the other Irish AC/MOR/Classic Hits radio stations when it really is highly fragmented and of course it is not available on FM. I do believe that RTE - whether it's through Gold or some other service could be offering a more comprehensive music service to cater for that 40-55 age group that you mentioned. There are also others who would feel very strongly that RTE Gold should be left as it is. In my opinion 2fm does not need to be under the definition of CHR, rather it could adopt a unique US style HotAC sound with a carefully selected CHR element and presentation. And yes, RTE Radio 1 alone does not service the music needs of that older audience.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Tork


    RTE Gold is only online though and it doesn't have the profile of 2FM. I think Gold would have an instant audience if it was switched to FM and they didn't mess around too much with the formula. In other words, no sticking talk shows into the middle of it or having the content veer too wildly about the place. Really though, we're just playing Fantasy Radio Stations here. You just know Dan Healy is going to continue down the road he's on, no matter how many times it blows up in his face.

    This is a rather odd quote from the same article "There’s a lot of support for Lottie. While it’s not support for Lottie per se but more the issue. People in there really detest anyone being treated badly. And she has been treated deplorably,’ revealed the source."

    It doesn't suggest that they're clamouring for her return (is anyone?) but he is in danger of turning her into an unlikely martyr. I don't think she's good enough to be presenting a national radio show but she should never have been promoted to this position. Was there any sort of plan when he gave her the gig? I assume that photo of her and David O'Reilly was taken after their pairing was announced?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    It looks like she was led to believe that it was her gig but they were really looking for a more high profile replacement for the 2 Johnnies. Kevin Backhurst is also involved here as he is effectively wielding an axe to all of those extra perks that those presenters were availing of or could potentially benefit from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭mountain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    That Extra article looks like very typical 'agent spin' if I'm honest - Now, when all these people announced they were cutting ties with the beautiful Mr Kelly, I'm just not convinced that is the case -

    We had Ciara Kelly, Ciara Doherty and Lotto Ryan (and others) dumping Mr K, however, I doubt it's that easy to dump the little fella. He does like his contracts after all and very little seems to have changed with the puff piece output in the daily rags since

    The little fella, in a fine but angry voice: ♫ ♪ ♬ ♩ 'You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar…when I met you…'♫ ♪ ♬ ♩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I thought it was clear at the time that Lottie and David were summer cover for Drivetime and they didn't have the slot permanently. I mean, that's what it said in the papers, so I assume the two knew that as well? That they've been pulled so quickly suggests that listener figures must have plummeted or feedback was terrible, normally new presenters or presenter combinations are given a few months to bed in. I remember listening to Dermot and Dave in their early shows on 98FM in 2003 and they were awful, but they grew into the roles. Pulling new presenters after three weeks suggests something is seriously wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Tork


    Goes to show how irrelevant Tubridy has become, that the thread has turned into one about Lottie Ryan!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭nonetheless


    Again, look I am not a fan and I would not dispute that it could have well been a misunderstanding or her part regarding that slot, her purpose and its duration. However, it would be highly appropriate and a display of good faith to notify her first and put her on notice of her replacement. If that did not happen, it does really question RTE's internal basic communication skills and it's ability to act professionally. If we consider negative feedback, falling listenership figures and the fact that there maybe something seriously wrong in terms of presentation, it is also apparent that the subject of this very thread is not doing great radio either and comes from that very same institution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Even RTE has entered into a Post-Tubridy era.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/late-late-show-and-fair-city-to-be-made-outside-rte-in-post-ryan-tubridy-plan/a2061651285.html

    Tubridy may still be toxic in RTE. That would work against him being rehired. Then again, it is RTE. The Lottie Ryan piece seems like standard puff piece complete with unnamed sources and shocked thousands. The interesting thing about the coverage on Tubridy is that it went from supportive in the Sindo/Indo to an "in passing" kind of coverage. It didn't offer him a column in the Sindo.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭animalinside


    "People in there really detest anyone being treated badly."

    "‘That belief has been exposed as a charade. ‘Why bother going to college, doing all the donkey work, when all you have to do is have a few followers on TikTok. It’s despicable and totally demoralising.’"

    I don't believe in this scenario at all. I refuse to believe anyone could be this entitled, it's attempted media spin by someone clueless.

    Led to believe? It's either in the contract or not in the contract. There's no "treating people badly" in this sort of situation.

    Pile of shite if you ask me.



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