Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

The problem for Sinn Fein is that parties like PBP WILL actually rule out going into government with FF and FG. So will independents - who will have a get-out clause of supporting the government from outside in individual deals.

I think you just proved the other person's point.

Leo Varadkar took FG from 35% in the polls to 20.9% and he is gone before the next general election - normal political party

MLMD took SF from 37% in the polls to 11.9% and not only is she still there, but not a single SF representative is making any noise about it - not a normal political party.

He hung around long enough having brought them to 20%.

If MLMD has to go after the LE's and getting 2 maybe 3 MEPs elected what the hell was Leo doing after coming third in 2020?

Prior to the election the discussion was the poor polls for SF, we were told to wait for the election as that was the only valid poll. Now the poor polls have been confirmed, in fact the actual vote is way worse, suddenly there's more excuses..

On NT this morning Boylan proclaimed it was actually a great result as SF had increased their seats over 2019, and then said they would look into what went wrong in the exact same election🤷.

These people are spoofers, all they know is to repeat what they've been told to say by unknown internal structures. There is not an independent thought among them.

Polls went from 36% to 24% and in the actual election which you said was the only thing that mattered went to 11%!

The election was a disaster to anyone with an ounce of sense.

If you were "suckered" (your word, not mine) once for many years by FF, and suckered by FG for years, has it never occured to you you have also been suckered by SF, who are the ultimate masters of spin, deception and lying in the country? Evem their / your leader for most of the past 40 years says he was never in the IRA : almost nobody believes him.

But you expect others to believe you never voted for SF for the vast bulk of your life, but all of a sudden you had a conversion and all of a sudden supported SF to the extent you have over 60,000 posts passionately for them?

Incredible, because most people do not change politics like that, or if they do change they for example may go from left wing parties when they were relatively poor ( eg in third level college ) to centre parties as they get older / more affluent / better understanding of the ways of the world.

You make a very good point. Once a sucker, always a sucker.

When it comes to some people, only the party fooling them changes.

As I said in previous post.

 Any informed politics watcher would know this.

They would also know where the parties are attracting support from:

In the 18-24-year-old age group, Sinn Féin has 31.8% support, compared to Fine Gael’s 15.5% and Fianna Fáil’s 13.6% (and the Green Party’s 14.4%).

Among 25-34-year-olds, SF has 31.7%, FG has 17.3% and FF has 15.2%.

Among 35-49-year-olds, SF has 22%, FG has 21.1% and FF gas 21.8%.

Among 50-64-year-olds, SF has 22.8%, FG has 22.3% and FF has 22.7%.

In the 65+ age group, SF support drops to 12.2% – well behind FG (30.2%) and FF (29.7%).

I would be in the company of this 22.8% of others, so I am not unique in any shape or form.

Among 50-64-year-olds, SF has 22.8%, FG has 22.3% and FF has 22.7%.

I am sure they will look hard and review why they didn't do better. It's what any political party would do.

Except SF dont have a costed plan to deliver more housing.

If you want more housing, the current govt are far more likley to oblige than SF; with SF planning to restrict investment funds from construction projects, therefore removing the majority financing of new home schemes.

That policy is only going to send new home builds one way. And it isn't upwards.

Based on their track record I highly doubt the current govt are more likley to solve the housing crisis than SF. The schemes you mentioned simply aren't working so new ideas are needed. Did you ever think that investment funds need to be restricted from construction projects because they are unrestricted at the moment and it isn't working

If you can explain where the alternative funding comes from to deliver the projects, please go ahead.

We are all still waiting for anyone, including SF, to answer that question.

The country is currently awash with money. If corporations paid the proper amount of tax there would be more again to go around.

Just because you change an approach does not mean your new alternative will be more effective.

But if you don't change your approach you definitely won't get better results

Remember that the current govt are upping projections towards the 50k new mark now. So although the 33k homes delivered last year is not where we need to be, it is on an upward trajectory & with further large rises planned for and expected.

Commemcement notices for 2024 are up over 600% vs same period last year, so the proof of uptick is there.

We've been hearing for years about how "next year we will build (insert big impressive figure here) new homes" and the target always gets missed. We needed 30,000 new homes per year back around 2018 and that target finally got reached 5 years later, the govt and supporters must be cracking the champagne bottles only being 5 years late!

To be fair though, welcome if it happens

The tax rate doesn't need to be higher it just needs to be implemented properly. Apple paid the equivalent of 0.5% tax on their profits, that can't be much help to the country even if it did completely disappear tomorrow

They paid an effective tax on their profits of 0.005%. I paid 45% taxes on my income (not my profits) last year. It's a tax haven for some but not for all